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From: Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	daniel@iogearbox.net, David.Laight@aculab.com,
	davem@davemloft.net, pablo@netfilter.org, johunt@akamai.com,
	kaber@trash.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net 2/2] rhashtable: remove indirection for grow/shrink decision functions
Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 16:57:33 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150312165733.GB11089@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150311064241.GA7153@gondor.apana.org.au>

On 03/11/15 at 05:42pm, Herbert Xu wrote:
> Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com> wrote:
> > There is no need to track number of elements, using either an atomic_t
> > or percpu_counter. This adds unnecessary burden.
> > 
> > 1) Automatic shrinking is a non issue. This will free very little
> > memory, compared to previous peak usage (including objects put in
> > rhashtable). If hash grown to a certain point, it's likely it will grow
> > again later.
> > 
> > 2) Growing can be triggered when any bucket has more than X elems, and
> > that is given for free at insert time.
> > X could be log2(buckets)/2 I guess. (aka shift/2)
> > 
> > A global limit on number of elements should be controlled by rhashtable
> > users - if needed -, not in the rhashtable itself.
> 
> I agree in the strongest terms :)

I agree that the max elements should be enforced by users as done by
Netlink right now. I'm also fine with ditching nelems from rhashtable
as long as shrinking is covered. Patrick mentioned several times by
now that nft sets want to have shrinking.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-12 16:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-25 15:31 [PATCH net 0/2] rhashtable updates Daniel Borkmann
2015-02-25 15:31 ` [PATCH net 1/2] rhashtable: unconditionally grow when max_shift is not specified Daniel Borkmann
2015-02-25 16:28   ` Thomas Graf
2015-02-25 16:36     ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-02-25 16:44       ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-02-25 17:09         ` Thomas Graf
2015-02-25 15:31 ` [PATCH net 2/2] rhashtable: remove indirection for grow/shrink decision functions Daniel Borkmann
2015-02-25 15:41   ` David Laight
2015-02-25 15:46     ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-02-25 15:51       ` David Laight
2015-02-25 16:14         ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-02-25 17:41           ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-25 17:49             ` David Laight
2015-02-25 18:15               ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-25 18:56             ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-02-25 19:52               ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-25 20:10                 ` Patrick McHardy
2015-02-26 10:02             ` tgraf
2015-02-27 22:30               ` David Miller
2015-02-28  0:48                 ` Patrick McHardy
2015-02-28  1:35                   ` David Miller
2015-02-26 14:18             ` David Laight
2015-03-11  6:42             ` Herbert Xu
2015-03-12 16:57               ` Thomas Graf [this message]
2015-03-13  7:06                 ` Herbert Xu
2015-02-25 17:23   ` Thomas Graf
2015-02-27 21:06 ` [PATCH net 0/2] rhashtable updates David Miller
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-02-25 22:09 [PATCH net 2/2] rhashtable: remove indirection for grow/shrink decision functions Alexei Starovoitov
2015-02-26  7:53 ` Patrick McHardy
2015-02-26  8:54   ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-02-26 14:50   ` Eric Dumazet
2015-02-26 14:54     ` Patrick McHardy

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