From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
To: Scott Feldman <sfeldma@gmail.com>
Cc: "David Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, "Ji??í Pírko" <jiri@resnulli.us>,
"Roopa Prabhu" <roopa@cumulusnetworks.com>,
"Guenter Roeck" <linux@roeck-us.net>,
"Florian Fainelli" <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
"Samudrala, Sridhar" <sridhar.samudrala@intel.com>,
"Arad, Ronen" <ronen.arad@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 01/26] switchdev: introduce get/set attrs ops
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 20:43:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150402184312.GL10092@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAE4R7bD17Tv+4rFJDFeMQadPB=gj4dNktaT0wU7BksL-PB=NJg@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 10:38:56AM -0700, Scott Feldman wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 9:05 AM, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:
> > From: Scott Feldman <sfeldma@gmail.com>
> > Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 00:43:57 -0700
> >
> >> On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 11:08 AM, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:
> >>> From: sfeldma@gmail.com
> >>> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 03:07:37 -0700
> >>>
> >>>> +int swdev_port_attr_set(struct net_device *dev, struct swdev_attr *attr)
> >>>> +{
> >>>> + struct swdev_attr prev = *attr;
> >>>> + int err, get_err, revert_err;
> >>>> +
> >>>> + get_err = swdev_port_attr_get(dev, &prev);
> >>>> +
> >>>> + err = __swdev_port_attr_set(dev, attr);
> >>>> + if (err && !get_err && !(attr->flags & SWDEV_F_NO_RECOVER)) {
> >>>> + /* Some err on set: revert to previous value */
> >>>> + revert_err = __swdev_port_attr_set(dev, &prev);
> >>>> + if (revert_err)
> >>>> + netdev_err(dev, "Reverting swdev port attr %d failed\n",
> >>>> + attr->id);
> >>>> + }
> >>>> +
> >>>> + return err;
> >>>
> >>> This style of error recovery doesn't work.
> >>>
> >>> You have to have a prepare/commit model to do this sanely, because
> >>> otherwise:
> >>>
> >>> 1) Partial state updates can be seen by the data plane (and other
> >>> code paths) that do not use RTNL mutex protection.
> >>>
> >>> 2) It is absoultely expected that if some resource allocation failed
> >>> when switching to the new attribute value, the same exactly thing
> >>> is extremely likely during the rollback.
> >>>
> >>> So you have to code this in a way that no partial state updates are
> >>> ever visible, and also that rollbacks don't fail.
> >>
> >> I'm sending v3 with a prepare/commit model, for attr sets and obj
> >> adds. The prepare phase asks driver(s) if set/add will work (is
> >> supported and device resource is available). If yes, then do commit
> >> phase. Commit could still fail due to failures outside the control
> >> of the driver, like ENOMEM. In that case, WARN and return err.
> >
> > Scott, the whole purpose of the prepare phase is the allocate any
> > necessary resources so that they are available for the commit phase.
> > It needs to do this in addition to validating the incoming arguments.
> >
> > If some part of the prepare phase fails, you go back and release any
> > pre-allocated resources.
> >
> > The commit phase must not fail.
>
> I was afraid you were going to say that :(
>
> I looked at doing that with rocker for setting STP state. The driver
> does allocate some system memory blocks, conditionally, about 4 call
> levels down, and then it may or may not free them it.
Probably a dumb question:
How many of the problems are limited to rocker, and not other switch
devices? DSA allocates all its memory at probe time. There is no
runtime memory allocation. So ENOMEM, with the current code, is not
going to be an issue. Setting STP state is only going to fail if the
switch chip stops responding to the MDIO bus etc. Joining a port to a
bridge will only fail if there is a bug in the DSA code such that
masks don't make sense.
Do we need a generic, complex rollback system, or can we push that
complexity down into rocker?
Andrew
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-04-02 18:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-04-01 10:07 [PATCH net-next v2 00/26] switchdev: spring cleanup sfeldma
2015-04-01 10:07 ` [PATCH net-next v2 01/26] switchdev: introduce get/set attrs ops sfeldma
2015-04-01 12:19 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2015-04-01 18:08 ` David Miller
2015-04-02 7:43 ` Scott Feldman
2015-04-02 16:05 ` David Miller
2015-04-02 17:38 ` Scott Feldman
2015-04-02 17:54 ` David Miller
2015-04-02 18:43 ` Andrew Lunn [this message]
2015-04-01 10:07 ` [PATCH net-next v2 02/26] switchdev: convert parent_id_get to swdev attr get sfeldma
2015-04-01 10:07 ` [PATCH net-next v2 03/26] switchdev: convert STP update to swdev attr set sfeldma
2015-04-01 10:07 ` [PATCH net-next v2 04/26] switchdev: add bridge port flags attr sfeldma
2015-04-01 10:07 ` [PATCH net-next v2 05/26] rocker: use swdev get/set attr for bridge port flags sfeldma
2015-04-01 10:07 ` [PATCH net-next v2 06/26] switchdev: introduce swdev add/del obj ops sfeldma
2015-04-01 10:07 ` [PATCH net-next v2 07/26] switchdev: add port vlan obj sfeldma
2015-04-01 10:07 ` [PATCH net-next v2 08/26] rocker: use swdev add/del obj for bridge port vlans sfeldma
2015-04-01 10:07 ` [PATCH net-next v2 09/26] switchdev: add new swdev bridge setlink sfeldma
2015-04-01 10:07 ` [PATCH net-next v2 10/26] rocker: cut over to new swdev_port_bridge_setlink sfeldma
2015-04-01 10:07 ` [PATCH net-next v2 11/26] bonding: " sfeldma
2015-04-01 10:07 ` [PATCH net-next v2 12/26] team: " sfeldma
2015-04-01 10:07 ` [PATCH net-next v2 13/26] switchdev: remove old netdev_switch_port_bridge_setlink sfeldma
2015-04-01 10:07 ` [PATCH net-next v2 14/26] switchdev: add new swdev_port_bridge_dellink sfeldma
2015-04-01 10:07 ` [PATCH net-next v2 15/26] rocker: cut over to " sfeldma
2015-04-01 10:07 ` [PATCH net-next v2 16/26] bonding: " sfeldma
2015-04-01 10:07 ` [PATCH net-next v2 17/26] team: " sfeldma
2015-04-01 10:07 ` [PATCH net-next v2 18/26] switchdev: remove unused netdev_switch_port_bridge_dellink sfeldma
2015-04-01 10:07 ` [PATCH net-next v2 19/26] switchdev: add new swdev_port_bridge_getlink sfeldma
2015-04-01 10:07 ` [PATCH net-next v2 20/26] rocker: cut over to " sfeldma
2015-04-01 10:07 ` [PATCH net-next v2 21/26] bonding: " sfeldma
2015-04-01 10:07 ` [PATCH net-next v2 22/26] team: " sfeldma
2015-04-01 10:07 ` [PATCH net-next v2 23/26] switchdev: rename netdev_switch_fib_* to swdev_fib_* sfeldma
2015-04-01 10:08 ` [PATCH net-next v2 24/26] switchdev: rename netdev_switch_notifier_* to swdev_notifier_* sfeldma
2015-04-01 10:08 ` [PATCH net-next v2 25/26] switchdev: convert swdev_fib_ipv4_add/del over to swdev_port_obj_add/del sfeldma
2015-04-01 11:47 ` Jiri Pirko
2015-04-01 15:05 ` roopa
2015-04-01 16:05 ` Jiri Pirko
2015-04-03 18:00 ` Florian Fainelli
2015-04-06 21:56 ` Scott Feldman
2015-04-01 10:08 ` [PATCH net-next v2 26/26] switchdev: bring documentation up-to-date sfeldma
2015-04-01 11:40 ` [PATCH net-next v2 00/26] switchdev: spring cleanup Jiri Pirko
2015-04-01 18:02 ` Scott Feldman
2015-04-02 6:06 ` Jiri Pirko
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