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From: Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch>
To: Shrijeet Mukherjee <shm@cumulusnetworks.com>
Cc: Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion.org>,
	Nicolas Dichtel <nicolas.dichtel@6wind.com>,
	David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Jamal Hadi Salim <hadi@mojatatu.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Roopa Prabhu <roopa@cumulusnetworks.com>,
	Andy Gospodarek <gospo@cumulusnetworks.com>,
	Jon Toppins <jtoppins@cumulusnetworks.com>,
	Nikolay Aleksandrov <nikolay@cumulusnetworks.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC net-next 0/3] Proposal for VRF-lite
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 11:46:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150612094659.GB5289@pox.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJmoNQHRTJwdMjziQiPBX07sZKrYd3Z1ASNi1xQZdgJ1Vs6bGg@mail.gmail.com>

On 06/10/15 at 01:43pm, Shrijeet Mukherjee wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 3:15 AM, Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch> wrote:
> > Do I understand this correctly that swp* represent veth pairs?
> > Why do you have distinct addresses on each peer of the pair?
> > Are the addresses in N2 and N3 considered private and NATed?
> >
> > [...]
> >
> >
> ???These are physical boxes in the picture not veth pairs or NAT's :)???

I see. So if I translate this to a virtual world with veths where
the guest facing peer is in its own netns, the host facing veth
peer would get attached to a vrf device and we should be good.

> ???Are you worried about ip rule scale ? this reduces the scale to number of
> L3 domains, which should be not that large. I do think we need to speed up
> rule lookup from the linear walk we have right now.

I definitely have more L3 domains than what a linear search can
handle.

> A generic classifier seems like a bigger hammer, but if that is the way to
> replace rules it is a worthy concept.
> 
> That said, the patches from Hannes et al, will make it such that the table
> lookup maybe from the driver directly and thus will skip past the fib rule
> lookup.

The approach from Hannes definitely works for the physical world
but is undesirable for overlays, logical or encapsulations, where
we want to avoid maintaining a net_device for every virtual network.

As I said, I think this is something that can be resolved later on
with a programmable classifier.

      parent reply	other threads:[~2015-06-12  9:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-08 18:35 [RFC net-next 0/3] Proposal for VRF-lite Shrijeet Mukherjee
2015-06-08 18:35 ` [RFC net-next 1/3] Symbol preparation for VRF driver Shrijeet Mukherjee
2015-06-10 16:24   ` Alexander Duyck
2015-06-08 18:35 ` [RFC net-next 2/3] VRF driver and needed infrastructure Shrijeet Mukherjee
2015-06-08 19:08   ` David Ahern
2015-06-08 20:17   ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-06-09  9:19   ` Nicolas Dichtel
2015-06-09 12:35   ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2015-06-10  2:11     ` Shrijeet Mukherjee
2015-06-10 18:20   ` Alexander Duyck
2015-06-08 18:35 ` [RFC net-next 3/3] rcv path changes for vrf traffic Shrijeet Mukherjee
2015-06-08 19:58   ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-06-08 20:00     ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-06-08 20:22     ` Shrijeet Mukherjee
2015-06-08 20:33       ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-06-08 22:44         ` Shrijeet Mukherjee
2015-06-09  5:41           ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-06-08 22:05     ` David Miller
2015-06-08 22:13       ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-06-08 22:21         ` David Miller
2015-06-09  0:36     ` David Ahern
2015-06-09  1:03     ` David Ahern
2015-06-09  5:35       ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-06-10 18:31   ` Alexander Duyck
2015-06-08 18:35 ` [RFC iproute2] Add the ability to create a VRF device and specify it's table binding Shrijeet Mukherjee
2015-06-08 19:13 ` [RFC net-next 0/3] Proposal for VRF-lite David Ahern
2015-06-08 19:51   ` Shrijeet Mukherjee
2015-06-08 20:41   ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-06-09  8:58 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2015-06-09 14:21   ` David Ahern
2015-06-09 14:55     ` Nicolas Dichtel
2015-06-09 17:14       ` Shrijeet Mukherjee
2015-06-09 10:15 ` Thomas Graf
2015-06-09 12:30   ` Nicolas Dichtel
2015-06-09 12:43     ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
     [not found]   ` <CAJmoNQHRTJwdMjziQiPBX07sZKrYd3Z1ASNi1xQZdgJ1Vs6bGg@mail.gmail.com>
2015-06-12  9:46     ` Thomas Graf [this message]

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