From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: KVM list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>,
gkurz@linux.vnet.ibm.com, kraxel@redhat.com, thuth@redhat.com,
david@gibson.dropbear.id.au
Subject: Re: [PULL] virtio/vhost: cross endian support
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2015 09:59:01 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150703095637-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150702071412-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com>
On Thu, Jul 02, 2015 at 08:01:28AM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 01, 2015 at 12:02:50PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 2:31 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > virtio/vhost: cross endian support
> >
> > Ugh. Does this really have to be dynamic?
> >
> > Can't virtio do the sane thing, and just use a _fixed_ endianness?
> >
> > Doing a unconditional byte swap is faster and simpler than the crazy
> > conditionals. That's true regardless of endianness, but gets to be
> > even more so if the fixed endianness is little-endian, since BE is
> > not-so-slowly fading from the world.
> >
> > Linus
>
> Yea, well - support for legacy BE guests on the new LE hosts is
> exactly the motivation for this.
>
> I dislike it too, but there are two redeeming properties that
> made me merge this:
>
> 1. It's a trivial amount of code: since we wrap host/guest accesses
> anyway, almost all of it is well hidden from drivers.
>
> 2. Sane platforms would never set flags like VHOST_CROSS_ENDIAN_LEGACY -
> and when it's clear, there's zero overhead (as some point it was
> tested by compiling with and without the patches, got the same
> stripped binary).
>
> Maybe we could create a Kconfig symbol to enforce point (2): prevent
> people from enabling it e.g. on x86. I will look into this - but it can
> be done by a patch on top, so I think this can be merged as is.
Linus, could you please clarify whether making the
feature depend on the cross-endian guest support
would address your comment, and whether you think
this can be merged as is, and the dependency added
after -rc1?
> Or do you know of someone using kernel with all config options enabled
> undiscriminately?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> MST
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-07-03 7:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-07-01 9:31 [PULL] virtio/vhost: cross endian support Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-01 19:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-01 19:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-02 6:12 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-02 6:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-02 9:12 ` Greg Kurz
2015-07-02 9:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-07 16:36 ` Thomas Huth
2015-07-07 16:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-09 7:49 ` [PATCH] KVM: Add Kconfig option to signal cross-endian guests Thomas Huth
2015-07-09 9:48 ` Laurent Vivier
2015-07-09 12:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-07-09 13:07 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-07-09 18:59 ` Thomas Huth
2015-07-09 10:02 ` Christoffer Dall
2015-07-09 12:21 ` Cornelia Huck
2015-07-13 9:24 ` Greg Kurz
2015-07-03 7:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2015-07-03 22:26 ` [PULL] virtio/vhost: cross endian support Linus Torvalds
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