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From: Phil Sutter <phil@nwl.cc>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	fw@strlen.de, netdev@vger.kernel.org, cwang@twopensource.com,
	eric.dumazet@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [net-next PATCH 1/3] net: make default tx_queue_len configurable
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 03:13:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150813011339.GF32353@orbit.nwl.cc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150812011347.GA58200@Alexeis-MacBook-Pro.local>

On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 06:13:49PM -0700, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 06:23:35PM +0200, Phil Sutter wrote:
> > 
> > I have an unfinished solution in the oven, but being kept busy with
> > other things for now. The action plan is as follows:
> > 
> > 1) Introduce IFF_NO_QUEUE net_device->priv_flag.
> > 2) Have attach_default_qdiscs() and attach_one_default_qdisc() treat
> >    IFF_NO_QUEUE as alternative to tx_queue_len == 0.
> > 3) Add warning to register_netdevice() if tx_queue_len == 0.
> > 4) Change virtual NIC drivers to set IFF_NO_QUEUE and leave tx_queue_len
> >    alone.
> > 5) Eventually drop all special handling for tx_queue_len == 0.
> > 
> > I am currently somewhere in 2) and need to implement 4) for veth as PoC to
> > check if 2) suffices in all situations we want. Not sure if 3) is
> > desireable at all or if there are valid cases for a literally zero
> > length TX queue length.
> 
> sounds like you want to change default qdisc from pfifo_fast to noqueue
> for veth, right?
> In general 'changing the default' may be an acceptable thing, but then
> it needs to strongly justified. How much performance does it bring?
> Also why introduce the flag? Why not just add 'tx_queue_len = 0;' 
> to veth_setup() like the whole bunch of devices do?

A quick test on my local VM with veth and netperf (netserver and veth
peer in different netns) I see an increase of about 5% of throughput
when using noqueue instead of the default pfifo_fast.

Cheers, Phil

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-08-13  1:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-29 20:51 [net-next PATCH 0/3] Backwards-compatible noqueue in virtual interfaces Phil Sutter
2015-07-29 20:51 ` [net-next PATCH 1/3] net: make default tx_queue_len configurable Phil Sutter
2015-07-29 20:51   ` [net-next PATCH 2/3] net: sched: set tx_queue_len to default when changing noqueue device's qdisc Phil Sutter
2015-07-29 20:51     ` [net-next PATCH 3/3] veth: don't assign a qdisc to veth Phil Sutter
2015-07-29 21:10     ` [net-next PATCH 2/3] net: sched: set tx_queue_len to default when changing noqueue device's qdisc Florian Westphal
2015-07-29 21:10     ` Eric Dumazet
2015-07-29 22:08       ` Phil Sutter
2015-07-29 21:06   ` [net-next PATCH 1/3] net: make default tx_queue_len configurable Florian Westphal
2015-07-29 21:34     ` Phil Sutter
2015-07-29 21:37       ` David Miller
2015-08-11 15:48         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2015-08-11 16:23           ` Phil Sutter
2015-08-12  1:13             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-08-12 14:55               ` Eric Dumazet
2015-08-13  1:13               ` Phil Sutter [this message]
2015-08-13 13:10                 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2015-08-13 15:06                   ` Phil Sutter
2015-07-29 23:10 ` [net-next PATCH 0/3] Backwards-compatible noqueue in virtual interfaces Cong Wang

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