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From: Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, fengguang.wu@intel.com,
	wfg@linux.intel.com, lkp@01.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] rhashtable-test: retry insert operations in threads
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 16:13:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150901141305.GA11564@pox.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150901140341.GA13757@gondor.apana.org.au>

On 09/01/15 at 10:03pm, Herbert Xu wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 01, 2015 at 03:56:18PM +0200, Phil Sutter wrote:
> > 
> > Looking at rhashtable_test.c, I see the initial table size is 8 entries.
> > 70% of that is 5.6 entries, so background expansion is started after the
> > 6th entry has been added, right? Given there are 10 threads running
> > which try to insert 50k entries at the same time, I don't think it's
> > unlikely that three more entries are inserted before the background
> > expansion completes.
> 
> Yes but in that case the GFP_ATOMIC allocation should work because
> the table is so small anyway.

You can easily trigger this outside of the testsuite as well. Open
10K Netlink sockets in a loop and the creation of the sockets will
fail way before memory pressure kicks in.

I agree with you that the user should never retry on memory failure.
That's why I suggested to differentiate between a "permanent" failure
(memory pressure) and non-permanent failure (temporary overload on
background expansion). Hence the proposed difference of return codes
ENOMEM and EBUSY to report this back to the API user.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-01 14:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-28 10:28 [PATCH 1/3] rhashtable-test: add cond_resched() to thread test Phil Sutter
2015-08-28 10:28 ` [PATCH 2/3] rhashtable-test: retry insert operations in threads Phil Sutter
2015-08-28 11:09   ` Thomas Graf
2015-08-28 11:13     ` Phil Sutter
2015-08-28 13:34       ` Phil Sutter
2015-08-28 22:43         ` Thomas Graf
2015-08-29  9:07           ` Phil Sutter
2015-08-30  7:47             ` Herbert Xu
2015-08-31 11:00               ` Phil Sutter
2015-09-01 11:43                 ` Herbert Xu
2015-09-01 12:46                   ` Phil Sutter
2015-09-01 13:00                     ` Herbert Xu
2015-09-01 13:40                       ` Eric Dumazet
2015-09-01 13:43                       ` Phil Sutter
2015-09-01 13:50                         ` Herbert Xu
2015-09-01 13:56                           ` Phil Sutter
2015-09-01 14:03                             ` Herbert Xu
2015-09-01 14:13                               ` Thomas Graf [this message]
2015-09-01 14:16                                 ` Herbert Xu
2015-09-01 14:51                                   ` Thomas Graf
2015-09-02  2:00                                     ` Herbert Xu
2015-09-02  7:07                                       ` Thomas Graf
2015-09-10  8:03                                     ` Herbert Xu
2015-09-10 10:05                                       ` Phil Sutter
2015-08-28 10:28 ` [PATCH 3/3] rhashtable-test: calculate max_entries value by default Phil Sutter
2015-08-28 11:11   ` Thomas Graf
2015-08-28 11:03 ` [PATCH 1/3] rhashtable-test: add cond_resched() to thread test Thomas Graf

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