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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: "Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"David Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Cong Wang" <cwang@twopensource.com>,
	"Tom Herbert" <tom@herbertland.com>,
	kafai@fb.com, kernel-team@fb.com,
	"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Network Development" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Jiří Pírko" <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	"Nicolas Dichtel" <nicolas.dichtel@6wind.com>,
	"Thomas Graf" <tgraf@suug.ch>,
	"Scott Feldman" <sfeldma@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: netlink: Add barrier to netlink_connect for theoretical case
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 11:09:13 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150925150913.GE4449@mtj.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150925033957.GA4675@gondor.apana.org.au>

Hello, Herbert.

On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 11:39:57AM +0800, Herbert Xu wrote:
> +static inline bool netlink_bound(struct netlink_sock *nlk)
> +{
> +	bool bound = READ_ONCE(nlk->bound);
> +
> +	/* Ensure nlk is hashed and visible. */
> +	if (bound)
> +		smp_rmb();
> +
> +	return bound;
> +}

While I can't see anything wrong with the above, I'm not a fan of it
for whatever worth that may be.  I don't think it adds anything in
terms of readability or clarity of the code.  It does avoid smp_rmb()
when @bound is false but that's unlikely to be helfpul - where the
barrier is being avoided is a cold path.  This is largely a generic
characteristic because if where the barrier is being avoided is a hot
path, why wouldn't the code just grab a lock in that path instead of
using a gated barrier?  So, there's a reason why we don't see code
like the above commonly.  It doesn't buy us anything meaningful while
making the code more complicated and sometimes more fragile.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-25 15:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-17  2:29 Possible netlink autobind regression Tejun Heo
2015-09-17  3:08 ` Herbert Xu
2015-09-17  3:41   ` Herbert Xu
2015-09-17  5:02     ` Cong Wang
2015-09-17  5:15       ` Herbert Xu
2015-09-17 11:25         ` Thomas Graf
2015-09-17 11:30         ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-18  6:36           ` [PATCH v3] netlink: Fix autobind race condition that leads to zero port ID Herbert Xu
2015-09-18 11:16             ` [PATCH v4] " Herbert Xu
2015-09-21  5:55               ` David Miller
2015-09-21  6:06                 ` Herbert Xu
2015-09-21  6:11                   ` David Miller
2015-09-21 13:34                     ` netlink: Replace rhash_portid with bound Herbert Xu
2015-09-21 18:20                       ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-22  3:38                         ` [PATCH v2] " Herbert Xu
2015-09-22 16:10                           ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-22 18:42                             ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-22 18:53                               ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-22 19:28                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-22 19:50                                   ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-22 20:03                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-22 20:36                                       ` Bjørn Mork
2015-09-22 21:04                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-23  6:13                             ` Herbert Xu
2015-09-23 15:54                               ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-24  2:30                                 ` Herbert Xu
2015-09-24  2:46                                   ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-24  2:54                                     ` Herbert Xu
2015-09-24  3:06                                       ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-24  3:21                                         ` Herbert Xu
2015-09-24  3:29                                           ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-24  3:31                                             ` Herbert Xu
2015-09-24  3:41                                               ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-24  3:42                                                 ` Herbert Xu
2015-09-24  3:43                                                   ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-24  3:44                                                     ` Herbert Xu
2015-09-24 19:11                           ` David Miller
2015-09-24 20:05                             ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-25  1:43                               ` netlink: Add barrier to netlink_connect for theoretical case Herbert Xu
2015-09-25  3:24                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-25  3:39                                   ` Herbert Xu
2015-09-25 15:09                                     ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2015-09-25 15:01                                 ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-26 13:16                                   ` netlink: Add netlink_bound helper and use it in netlink_getname Herbert Xu
2015-09-26 18:09                                     ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-26 19:41                                       ` Herbert Xu
2015-09-26 19:45                                         ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-26 19:49                                           ` Herbert Xu
2015-09-26 19:52                                             ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-26 19:55                                               ` Herbert Xu
2015-09-26 20:05                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-26 20:10                                                   ` Herbert Xu
2015-09-26 20:17                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-21 20:52                       ` [PATCH] netlink: Replace rhash_portid with load_acquire protected boolean Tejun Heo
2015-09-18 13:37             ` [PATCH v3] netlink: Fix autobind race condition that leads to zero port ID Tejun Heo

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