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From: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: tom@herbertland.com, hannes@stressinduktion.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@fb.com, davewatson@fb.com,
	alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 0/6] kcm: Kernel Connection Multiplexor (KCM)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2015 16:27:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151124152744.GB20972@breakpoint.cc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151123.145433.1554000376541433305.davem@davemloft.net>

David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:
> From: Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com>
> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 09:33:44 -0800
> 
> > The TCP PSH flag is not defined for message delineation (neither is
> > urgent pointer). We can't change that (many people have tried to add
> > message semantics to TCP protocol but have always failed miserably).
>
> Agreed.
>
> My only gripe with kcm right now is a lack of a native sendpage.

Aside from Hannes comment -- KCM seems to be tied to the TLS work, i.e.
I have the impression that KCM without ability to do TLS in the kernel
is pretty much useless for whatever use case Tom has in mind.

And that ktls thing just gives me the creeps.

For KCM itself I don't even get the use case -- its in the 'yeah, you
can do that, but... why?' category 8-/

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-11-24 15:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-20 21:21 [PATCH net-next 0/6] kcm: Kernel Connection Multiplexor (KCM) Tom Herbert
2015-11-20 21:21 ` [PATCH net-next 1/6] rcu: Add list_next_or_null_rcu Tom Herbert
2015-11-20 21:21 ` [PATCH net-next 2/6] net: Make sock_alloc exportable Tom Herbert
2015-11-20 21:21 ` [PATCH net-next 3/6] net: Add MSG_BATCH flag Tom Herbert
2015-11-23 10:02   ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-11-20 21:21 ` [PATCH net-next 4/6] kcm: Kernel Connection Multiplexor module Tom Herbert
2015-11-20 22:50   ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-11-20 23:19     ` Tom Herbert
2015-11-20 23:27       ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-11-20 23:10   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-11-20 23:20     ` Tom Herbert
2015-11-23  9:42   ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-11-20 21:21 ` [PATCH net-next 5/6] kcm: Add statistics and proc interfaces Tom Herbert
2015-11-20 21:22 ` [PATCH net-next 6/6] kcm: Add description in Documentation Tom Herbert
2015-11-23  9:53 ` [PATCH net-next 0/6] kcm: Kernel Connection Multiplexor (KCM) Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-11-23 12:43   ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-11-23 17:33   ` Tom Herbert
2015-11-23 19:35     ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-11-23 19:54     ` David Miller
2015-11-23 20:02       ` Tom Herbert
2015-11-24 11:25       ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-11-24 15:49         ` David Miller
2015-11-24 15:27       ` Florian Westphal [this message]
2015-11-24 15:49         ` Eric Dumazet
2015-11-24 18:09           ` Rick Jones
2015-11-24 15:55         ` David Miller
2015-11-24 16:25           ` Florian Westphal
2015-11-24 17:00             ` Tom Herbert
2015-11-24 17:16               ` Florian Westphal
2015-11-24 17:43                 ` Tom Herbert
2015-11-24 20:55                   ` Florian Westphal
2015-11-24 21:49                     ` Tom Herbert
2015-11-24 22:22                       ` Florian Westphal
2015-11-24 22:25                         ` David Miller
2015-11-24 22:45                           ` Florian Westphal
2015-11-24 23:13                           ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-11-24 18:23             ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-11-24 18:59               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-11-24 19:16                 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-11-24 19:26                   ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-11-24 20:23                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
     [not found]                     ` <1448402288.1489559.449199721.64EBB346@webmail.messagingengine.com>
     [not found]                       ` <20151124222109.GA86838@ast-mbp.thefacebook.com>
2015-11-25 10:38                         ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-11-25 16:26             ` Sowmini Varadhan

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