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From: Sowmini Varadhan <sowmini.varadhan@oracle.com>
To: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
Cc: Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com>,
	Linux Kernel Network Developers <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org" <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: ipsec impact on performance
Date: Wed, 2 Dec 2015 07:11:56 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151202121156.GK23178@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <063D6719AE5E284EB5DD2968C1650D6D1CBE0ED7@AcuExch.aculab.com>

On (12/02/15 11:56), David Laight wrote:
> >                 Gbps  peak cpu util
> > esp-null         1.8   71%
> > aes-gcm-c-256    1.6   79%
> > aes-ccm-a-128    0.7   96%
> > 
> > That trend made me think that if we can get esp-null to be as close
> > as possible to GSO/GRO, the rest will follow closely behind.
> 
> That's not how I read those figures.
> They imply to me that there is a massive cost for the actual encryption
> (particularly for aes-ccm-a-128) - so whatever you do to the esp-null
> case won't help.

I'm not a crypto expert, but my understanding is that the CCM mode
is the "older" encryption algorithm, and GCM is the way of the future.
Plus, I think the GCM mode has some type of h/w support (hence the
lower cpu util)

I'm sure that crypto has a cost, not disputing that, but my point
was that 1.8 -> 1.6 -> 0.7 is a curve with a much gentler slope than
the 9 Gbps (clear traffic, GSO, GRO) 
    -> 4 Gbps (clear, no gro, gso) 
       -> 1.8 (esp-null)
That steeper slope smells of s/w perf that we need to resolve first,
before getting into the work of faster crypto?

> One way to get a view of the cost of the encryption (and copies)
> is to do the operation twice.

I could also just instrument it with perf tracepoints, if that 
data is interesting

--Sowmini

  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-02 12:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-01 17:59 ipsec impact on performance Sowmini Varadhan
2015-12-01 18:17 ` Rick Jones
2015-12-01 18:45   ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-12-01 18:50     ` Rick Jones
2015-12-01 19:01       ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-12-02  0:56   ` David Ahern
2015-12-02  1:09     ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-12-02  1:25       ` David Ahern
2015-12-01 18:18 ` Tom Herbert
2015-12-01 18:37   ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-12-02 11:56     ` David Laight
2015-12-02 12:11       ` Sowmini Varadhan [this message]
2015-12-02 12:41         ` David Laight
2015-12-02 13:25           ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-12-02 20:50           ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-12-02 21:07             ` Tom Herbert
2015-12-02 21:12               ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-12-02 21:44                 ` Tom Herbert
2015-12-02 21:47                   ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-12-02 22:01                     ` Tom Herbert
2015-12-02 22:08                       ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-12-02 22:25                 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-12-03  1:31       ` Rick Jones
2015-12-02  6:53 ` Steffen Klassert
2015-12-02 12:05   ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-12-03  8:45     ` Steffen Klassert
2015-12-03 11:38       ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-12-03 11:47         ` Steffen Klassert
2015-12-07  8:40         ` Steffen Klassert
2015-12-07 11:27           ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-12-08 11:32             ` Steffen Klassert
2015-12-08 11:51               ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-12-03 19:33 ` David Miller
2015-12-03 20:08   ` Eric Dumazet
2015-12-03 20:32   ` Sowmini Varadhan
2015-12-04  5:18 ` Sandy Harris

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