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From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>
To: Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Or Gerlitz <gerlitz.or@gmail.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Linux Kernel Network Developers <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	Daniel Borkmann <borkmann@iogearbox.net>,
	Marek Majkowski <marek@cloudflare.com>,
	Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion.org>,
	Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	John Fastabend <john.r.fastabend@intel.com>,
	Amir Vadai <amirva@gmail.com>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Vladislav Yasevich <vyasevich@gmail.com>,
	brouer@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Bypass at packet-page level (Was: Optimizing instruction-cache, more packets at each stage)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 18:04:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160128180438.59dbb937@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALx6S36nQ6-PnyDUrQseeeNYJM1wnPSkjcERw0GehzMYSUxR6w@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 08:37:07 -0800
Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 4:45 AM, Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2016-01-28 at 10:25 +0100, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> >  
> >> Yes, that is exactly what I'm contemplating :-)  That is idea "(1)".
> >>
> >> A natural extension to this work, which I expect Tom will love, is to
> >> also use the idea for RPS.  Once we have a SKB list in stack/GRO-layer,
> >> then we could build a local sk_buff_head list for each remote CPU, by
> >> calling get_rps_cpu().   And then enqueue_list_to_backlog, by a
> >> skb_queue_splice_tail(&cpu_list, &cpu->sd->input_pkt_queue) call.
> >>
> >> This would amortize the cost of transferring packets to a remote CPU,
> >> which Eric AFAIK points out is costing approx ~133ns.
> >>  
> >
> > Jesper, RPS and RFS already defer sending the IPI and submit batches to
> > remote cpus.
> >
> > See commits
> >
> > e326bed2f47d0365da5a8faaf8ee93ed2d86325b ("rps: immediate send IPI in
> > process_backlog()")
> >
> > 88751275b8e867d756e4f86ae92afe0232de129f ("rps: shortcut
> > net_rps_action()")
> >
> > And of course all the discussions we had to come up with
> > 0a9627f2649a02bea165cfd529d7bcb625c2fcad ("rps: Receive Packet
> > Steering")
> >
> > The current state :
> >
> > net_rps_action_and_irq_enable() sends the IPI at the end of
> > net_rx_action() once all NAPI handlers have been called, and therefore
> > have accumulated packets and cook rps_ipi_list (via calls to
> > rps_ipi_queued() from enqueue_to_backlog())

Yes, thanks for pointing this out. Then we already have amortized the
IPI call. Great.

> > Adding another stage in the pipeline would not help.
> >  
> skbs are enqueued on a CPU queue one at at time through
> enqueue_to_backlog. It would be nice to do that as a batch of skbs.

Yes, this was what I was looking at doing, a bulk enqueue to backlog.
Thus, amortizing the lock.  And if some remote CPU is reading/using
input_pkt_queue, then we don't bounce that cache line.

-- 
Best regards,
  Jesper Dangaard Brouer
  MSc.CS, Principal Kernel Engineer at Red Hat
  Author of http://www.iptv-analyzer.org
  LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/brouer

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-01-28 17:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-15 13:22 Optimizing instruction-cache, more packets at each stage Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-01-15 13:32 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-01-15 14:17   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-01-15 13:36 ` David Laight
2016-01-15 14:00   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-01-15 14:38     ` Felix Fietkau
2016-01-18 11:54       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-01-18 17:01         ` Eric Dumazet
2016-01-25  0:08         ` Florian Fainelli
2016-01-15 20:47 ` David Miller
2016-01-18 10:27   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-01-18 16:24     ` David Miller
2016-01-20 22:20       ` Or Gerlitz
2016-01-20 23:02         ` Eric Dumazet
2016-01-20 23:27           ` Tom Herbert
2016-01-21 11:27             ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-01-21 12:49               ` Or Gerlitz
2016-01-21 13:57                 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-01-21 18:56                 ` David Miller
2016-01-21 22:45                   ` Or Gerlitz
2016-01-21 22:59                     ` David Miller
2016-01-21 16:38               ` Eric Dumazet
2016-01-21 18:54               ` David Miller
2016-01-24 14:28                 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-01-24 14:44                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-01-24 17:28                     ` John Fastabend
2016-01-25 13:15                       ` Bypass at packet-page level (Was: Optimizing instruction-cache, more packets at each stage) Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-01-25 17:09                         ` Tom Herbert
2016-01-25 17:50                           ` John Fastabend
2016-01-25 21:32                             ` Tom Herbert
2016-01-25 21:58                               ` John Fastabend
2016-01-25 22:10                             ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-01-27 20:47                               ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-01-27 21:56                                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-01-28  9:52                                   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-01-28 12:54                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2016-01-28 13:25                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2016-01-28 16:43                                     ` Tom Herbert
2016-01-28  2:50                                 ` Tom Herbert
2016-01-28  9:25                                   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-01-28 12:45                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2016-01-28 16:37                                       ` Tom Herbert
2016-01-28 16:43                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2016-01-28 17:04                                         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer [this message]
2016-01-24 20:09                   ` Optimizing instruction-cache, more packets at each stage Tom Herbert
2016-01-24 21:41                     ` John Fastabend
2016-01-24 23:50                       ` Tom Herbert
2016-01-21 12:23             ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-01-21 16:38               ` Tom Herbert
2016-01-21 17:48                 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-01-22 12:33                   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-01-22 14:33                     ` Eric Dumazet
2016-01-22 17:07                     ` Tom Herbert
2016-01-22 17:17                       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-02-02 16:13             ` Or Gerlitz
2016-02-02 16:37               ` Eric Dumazet
2016-01-18 16:53     ` Eric Dumazet
2016-01-18 17:36     ` Tom Herbert
2016-01-18 17:49       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer

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