From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion.org>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Greg Kurz <gkurz@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 2/2] tun: don't set a default qdisc
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 12:05:32 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160414090532.GA2185@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <570F3D78.3070203@redhat.com>
On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 02:49:28PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>
>
> On 04/13/2016 06:26 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 11:04:47AM +0200, Paolo Abeni wrote:
> >> This patch disables the default qdisc by explicitly setting the
> >> IFF_NO_QUEUE private flag so that now the tun xmit path do not
> >> require any lock by default.
> >>
> >> The default qdisc was first removed as a side effect of commit
> >> f84bb1eac027 ("net: fix IFF_NO_QUEUE for drivers using alloc_netdev")
> >> and recently restored with commit 016adb7260f4 ("tuntap: restore default qdisc")
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
> > I wonder about this back and forth.
> > Jason, do you see a workload where the default qdisc
> > is preferable?
>
> I don't know, but we used to behave like this so we'd better keep it.
>
> An interesting thing is I vaguely remember that you have some concern
> when I propose IFF_NO_QUEUE for macvtap[1] :)
>
> [1] https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/8/24/147
It's the same concern - that we aren't fully addressing
the problem, so if user configures a qdisc, we are back to square 1.
It's especially annoying that IIUC in this setup, if one
does configured a non default qdisc, there's no way to go back.
It doesn't necessarily mean we must not do it as an intermediate step,
though.
>
> I think this could be done by management or more safe by introducing a
> new tun flag (TUN_NO_QUEUE).
What exactly does this flag do/mean?
> >
> >> ---
> >> drivers/net/tun.c | 1 +
> >> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/drivers/net/tun.c b/drivers/net/tun.c
> >> index 42992dc..0a0b63c 100644
> >> --- a/drivers/net/tun.c
> >> +++ b/drivers/net/tun.c
> >> @@ -1081,6 +1081,7 @@ static void tun_net_init(struct net_device *dev)
> >>
> >> break;
> >> }
> >> + dev->priv_flags |= IFF_NO_QUEUE;
> >> }
> >>
> >> /* Character device part */
> >> --
> >> 1.8.3.1
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-04-14 9:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-04-13 9:04 [PATCH RFC 0/2] tun: lockless xmit Paolo Abeni
2016-04-13 9:04 ` [PATCH RFC 1/2] tun: don't require serialization lock on tx Paolo Abeni
2016-04-13 9:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-13 9:48 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-04-13 12:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-13 13:27 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-04-13 13:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-13 14:39 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-04-13 12:52 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-04-13 14:26 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2016-04-14 6:50 ` Jason Wang
2016-04-14 10:27 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-04-13 9:04 ` [PATCH RFC 2/2] tun: don't set a default qdisc Paolo Abeni
2016-04-13 10:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-13 15:22 ` David Miller
2016-04-14 6:49 ` Jason Wang
2016-04-14 9:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2016-04-14 9:07 ` Jason Wang
2016-04-14 9:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-14 9:21 ` Jason Wang
2016-04-14 10:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-14 10:09 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-04-13 11:08 ` [PATCH RFC 0/2] tun: lockless xmit Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-13 12:50 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-04-13 12:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-13 13:09 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-04-13 13:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-04-13 13:43 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-04-13 16:42 ` Eric Dumazet
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