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From: Phil Sutter <phil@nwl.cc>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>,
	Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Deleting child qdisc doesn't reset parent to default qdisc?
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 17:18:13 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160414151813.GE3715@orbyte.nwl.cc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1460646099.10638.44.camel@edumazet-glaptop3.roam.corp.google.com>

On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 08:01:39AM -0700, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Thu, 2016-04-14 at 16:44 +0200, Jiri Kosina wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I've came across the behavior where adding a child qdisc and then deleting 
> > it again makes the networking dysfunctional (I guess that's because all of 
> > a sudden there is absolutely no working qdisc on the device, although 
> > there originally was a default one in the parent).
> > 
> > In a nutshell, is this expected behavior or bug?
> 
> This is the expected behavior.

OTOH some qdiscs (CBQ, DRR, DSMARK, HFSC, HTB, QFQ) assign the default
one upon deletion instead of noop_qdisc, hence I would describe
the situation using the words 'inconsistent' and 'accident' rather than
'expected'. :)

Anyhow, the problem with skilled admins is they accept quirks too easily
and just build their scripts around them - the same scripts we have to
keep compatible to then.

Cheers, Phil

  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-14 15:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-14 14:44 Deleting child qdisc doesn't reset parent to default qdisc? Jiri Kosina
2016-04-14 14:51 ` Jiri Kosina
2016-04-14 15:01 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-04-14 15:18   ` Phil Sutter [this message]
2016-04-14 15:34     ` Jiri Kosina
2016-04-14 15:44       ` Eric Dumazet
2016-04-14 16:22         ` Phil Sutter
2016-04-14 16:40           ` Eric Dumazet
2016-04-14 16:08     ` Jiri Kosina
2016-04-14 17:49       ` Eric Dumazet
2016-04-15 12:42         ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2016-04-15 14:58           ` Eric Dumazet
2016-04-15 17:13             ` David Miller
2016-06-28 15:19             ` Jiri Kosina
2016-06-28 17:28               ` Cong Wang
2016-06-28 17:33                 ` Jiri Kosina
2016-06-28 16:49             ` [RFC PATCH] sch_tbf: avoid silent fallback to noop_qdisc (was Re: Deleting child qdisc doesn't reset parent to default qdisc?) Jiri Kosina
2016-07-07  9:04             ` [RFC PATCH] net: sched: convert qdisc linked list to hashtable " Jiri Kosina
2016-07-07 13:51               ` Eric Dumazet
2016-07-07 16:32                 ` Jiri Kosina
2016-07-07 16:53                   ` Eric Dumazet
2016-07-07 20:36               ` [RFC PATCH v2] net: sched: convert qdisc linked list to hashtable Jiri Kosina
2016-07-08  8:50                 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-07-08  9:02                   ` Jiri Kosina
2016-07-08 11:07                 ` Thomas Graf
2016-07-08 13:52                   ` Eric Dumazet
2016-07-11 14:02                 ` [RFC PATCH v3] " Jiri Kosina
2016-07-12 17:36                   ` Cong Wang
2016-07-13 13:47                     ` Jiri Kosina
2016-07-28  9:56                   ` [PATCH v4] " Jiri Kosina
2016-07-28 11:10                     ` kbuild test robot
2016-07-28 11:18                       ` Jiri Kosina
2016-07-28 12:53                         ` Fengguang Wu
2016-07-28 16:53                           ` Cong Wang
2016-07-31 11:21                           ` Fengguang Wu
2016-08-01 10:12                             ` Jiri Kosina
2016-07-28 11:22                     ` kbuild test robot
2016-07-28 11:52                     ` kbuild test robot
2016-07-28 16:52                     ` Cong Wang
2016-07-29  7:49                     ` [PATCH v5] " Jiri Kosina
2016-07-29 20:01                       ` kbuild test robot
2016-07-31  0:11                       ` kbuild test robot
2016-08-01 10:23                       ` [PATCH v6] " Jiri Kosina

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