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From: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/3] tcp: randomize tcp timestamp offsets for each connection
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2016 00:32:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160818223219.GB3789@breakpoint.cc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1471537092.29842.62.camel@edumazet-glaptop3.roam.corp.google.com>

Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 2016-08-18 at 14:48 +0200, Florian Westphal wrote:
> > commit ceaa1fef65a7c2e ("tcp: adding a per-socket timestamp offset")
> > added the main infrastructure that is needed for per-connection
> > randomization, in particular writing/reading the on-wire tcp header
> > format takes the offset into account so rest of stack can use normal
> > tcp_time_stamp (jiffies).
> > 
> > So only two items are left:
> >  - add a tsoffset for request sockets
> >  - extend the tcp isn generator to also return another 32bit number
> >  in addition to the ISN.
> > 
> > Re-use of ISN generator also means timestamps are still monotonically
> > increasing for same connection quadruple.
> 
> I like the idea, but the implementation looks a bit complex.
> 
> Instead of initializing tsoffset to 0, we could simply use
> 
> jhash(src_addr, dst_addr, boot_time_rnd)
> 
> This way, even syncookies would be handled, and we do not need to
> increase tcp_request_sock size.

True, however I think it would be fairly easy to discover
boot_time_rnd given a few outputs, as jhash is not cryptograhic hash, no?

If thats not a concern I can just use jhash (not taking ports
into account doesn't seem to be a problem).

Alternatively (if tcp_request_sock increase/complexity is a problem)
I could either call the isn generator again, or add an extra function
for it (again using md5), I did not do this because I was afraid
it would be too expensive to do two md5 calculations.

Thanks for reviewing!

For cookies I had planned to just extend the cookie sha1 similar
to isn generator here, alternatives welcome.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-19  2:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-18 12:48 [RFC 0/3] tcp: increase resilence vs. blind data injection Florian Westphal
2016-08-18 12:48 ` [RFC 1/3] tcp: randomize tcp timestamp offsets for each connection Florian Westphal
2016-08-18 16:18   ` Eric Dumazet
2016-08-18 22:32     ` Florian Westphal [this message]
2016-08-25  9:06     ` Florian Westphal
2016-08-25 14:15       ` Eric Dumazet
2016-08-25 14:49         ` Florian Westphal
2016-08-25 16:05           ` Eric Dumazet
2016-08-25 19:34   ` Eric Dumazet
2016-08-25 20:31     ` Florian Westphal
2016-08-25 21:06       ` Eric Dumazet
2016-08-25 22:06   ` Eric Dumazet
2016-08-25 23:46     ` Florian Westphal
2016-08-26  2:34       ` Eric Dumazet
2016-08-18 12:48 ` [RFC 2/3] tcp: add tcp_timestamps=2 mode to force tsecr validation on ofo segments Florian Westphal
2016-08-18 12:48 ` [RFC 3/3] tcp: add mib counter to track ts tsecr validation failures Florian Westphal

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