From: Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch>
To: Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Linux Kernel Network Developers <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Kernel Team <kernel-team@fb.com>,
Tariq Toukan <tariqt@mellanox.com>,
Brenden Blanco <bblanco@plumgrid.com>,
Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 1/3] xdp: Infrastructure to generalize XDP
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 16:48:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160921144800.GB13991@pox.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALx6S35Xctd-aA8DF1_vypMDejiGXcud6=UO33dqgvO60W0DZQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 09/21/16 at 07:19am, Tom Herbert wrote:
> certain design that because of constraints on one kernel interface. As
> a kernel developer I want flexibility on how we design and implement
> things!
Perfectly valid argument. I reviewed your ILA changes and did not
object to them.
> I think there are two questions that this patch set poses for the
> community wrt XDP:
>
> #1: Should we allow alternate code to run in XDP other than BPF?
> #2: If #1 is true what is the best way to implement that?
>
> If the answer to #1 is "no" then the answer to #2 is irrelevant. So
> with this RFC I'm hoping we can come the agreement on questions #1.
I'm not opposed to running non-BPF code at XDP. I'm against adding
a linked list of hook consumers.
Would anyone require to run XDP-BPF in combination ILA? Or XDP-BPF
in combination with a potential XDP-nftables? We don't know yet I
guess.
Maybe exclusive access to the hook for one consumer as selected by
the user is good enough.
If that is not good enough: BPF (and potentially nftables in the
future) could provide means to perform a selection process where a
helper call can run another XDP prog or return a verdict to trigger
another XDP prog. Definitely more flexible and faster than a linear
list doing if, else if, else if, else if, ...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-09-21 14:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-09-20 22:00 [PATCH RFC 0/3] xdp: Generalize XDP Tom Herbert
2016-09-20 22:00 ` [PATCH RFC 1/3] xdp: Infrastructure to generalize XDP Tom Herbert
2016-09-20 22:37 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-09-20 22:40 ` Tom Herbert
2016-09-20 22:44 ` Thomas Graf
2016-09-20 22:49 ` Tom Herbert
2016-09-20 23:09 ` Thomas Graf
2016-09-20 23:18 ` Tom Herbert
2016-09-20 23:43 ` Thomas Graf
2016-09-20 23:59 ` Tom Herbert
2016-09-21 0:13 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-09-21 11:55 ` Thomas Graf
2016-09-21 14:19 ` Tom Herbert
2016-09-21 14:48 ` Thomas Graf [this message]
2016-09-21 15:08 ` Tom Herbert
2016-09-21 19:56 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-09-22 13:14 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-09-22 14:46 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-09-21 15:39 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-09-21 17:26 ` Jakub Kicinski
2016-09-20 23:22 ` Daniel Borkmann
2016-09-21 0:01 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-09-21 6:39 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-09-21 8:42 ` Daniel Borkmann
2016-09-21 15:44 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-09-21 17:26 ` Jakub Kicinski
2016-09-21 17:39 ` Tom Herbert
2016-09-21 18:45 ` Jakub Kicinski
2016-09-21 18:50 ` Tom Herbert
2016-09-21 18:54 ` Jakub Kicinski
2016-09-21 18:58 ` Thomas Graf
2016-09-23 11:13 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2016-09-23 13:00 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-09-23 14:26 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-09-25 11:32 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2016-09-23 14:14 ` Tom Herbert
2016-09-25 12:29 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2016-09-20 22:00 ` [PATCH RFC 2/3] mlx4: Change XDP/BPF to use generic XDP infrastructure Tom Herbert
2016-09-20 22:00 ` [PATCH RFC 3/3] netdevice: Remove obsolete xdp_netdev_command Tom Herbert
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