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From: Jakub Kicinski <kubakici@wp.pl>
To: Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@fb.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Linux Kernel Network Developers <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kernel Team <kernel-team@fb.com>,
	Tariq Toukan <tariqt@mellanox.com>,
	Brenden Blanco <bblanco@plumgrid.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 1/3] xdp: Infrastructure to generalize XDP
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 19:45:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160921194548.33b85cb3@jkicinski-Precision-T1700> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALx6S37CkP44ZSNZM3UNBMv_ECFS6tf5T_37VSMyBCjm9ejiDw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 21 Sep 2016 10:39:40 -0700, Tom Herbert wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Jakub Kicinski <kubakici@wp.pl> wrote:
> > On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 17:01:39 -0700, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:  
> >>  >  - Reduces the amount of code and complexity needed in drivers to
> >>  >    manage XDP  
> >>
> >> hmm:
> >> 534 insertions(+), 144 deletions(-)
> >> looks like increase in complexity instead.  
> >
> > and more to come to tie this with HW offloads.  
> 
> The amount of driver code did decrease with these patches:
> 
> drivers/net/ethernet/mellanox/mlx4/en_netdev.c | 64 ++++----------------------
> drivers/net/ethernet/mellanox/mlx4/en_rx.c     | 25 ++++------
> drivers/net/ethernet/mellanox/mlx4/mlx4_en.h   |  1 -
> 
> Minimizing complexity being added to drivers for XDP is critical since
> we basically asking every driver to replicate the function. This
> property also should also apply to HW offloads, the more complexity we
> can abstract out drivers into a common backend infrastructure the
> better for supporting across different drivers.

I'm in the middle of writing/testing XDP support for the Netronome's
driver and generic infra is very much appreciated ;)  In my experience
the 50 lines of code which are required for assigning the programs and
freeing them aren't really a big deal, though.

Let's also separate putting xdp_prog in netdevice/napi_struct from the
generic hook infra.  All the simplifications to the driver AFAICS come
from the former.  If everyone is fine with growing napi_struct we can do
that but IMHO this is not an argument for the generic infra :)

  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-21 18:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-20 22:00 [PATCH RFC 0/3] xdp: Generalize XDP Tom Herbert
2016-09-20 22:00 ` [PATCH RFC 1/3] xdp: Infrastructure to generalize XDP Tom Herbert
2016-09-20 22:37   ` Eric Dumazet
2016-09-20 22:40     ` Tom Herbert
2016-09-20 22:44   ` Thomas Graf
2016-09-20 22:49     ` Tom Herbert
2016-09-20 23:09       ` Thomas Graf
2016-09-20 23:18         ` Tom Herbert
2016-09-20 23:43           ` Thomas Graf
2016-09-20 23:59             ` Tom Herbert
2016-09-21  0:13               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-09-21 11:55               ` Thomas Graf
2016-09-21 14:19                 ` Tom Herbert
2016-09-21 14:48                   ` Thomas Graf
2016-09-21 15:08                     ` Tom Herbert
2016-09-21 19:56                       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-09-22 13:14                         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-09-22 14:46                           ` Eric Dumazet
2016-09-21 15:39                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-09-21 17:26                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2016-09-20 23:22         ` Daniel Borkmann
2016-09-21  0:01   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-09-21  6:39     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-09-21  8:42       ` Daniel Borkmann
2016-09-21 15:44       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-09-21 17:26     ` Jakub Kicinski
2016-09-21 17:39       ` Tom Herbert
2016-09-21 18:45         ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2016-09-21 18:50           ` Tom Herbert
2016-09-21 18:54             ` Jakub Kicinski
2016-09-21 18:58             ` Thomas Graf
2016-09-23 11:13   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2016-09-23 13:00     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2016-09-23 14:26       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-09-25 11:32       ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2016-09-23 14:14     ` Tom Herbert
2016-09-25 12:29       ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2016-09-20 22:00 ` [PATCH RFC 2/3] mlx4: Change XDP/BPF to use generic XDP infrastructure Tom Herbert
2016-09-20 22:00 ` [PATCH RFC 3/3] netdevice: Remove obsolete xdp_netdev_command Tom Herbert

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