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From: Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch>
To: Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Linux Kernel Network Developers <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	roopa <roopa@cumulusnetworks.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 3/4] bpf: BPF for lightweight tunnel encapsulation
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2016 18:35:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161031173500.GD32374@pox.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALx6S34hjr9-OV1qiyh+J=zhFdUtmMeC+7S=gj3BR7Z=1vaitA@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/31/16 at 09:07am, Tom Herbert wrote:
> I guess this leads to a more general question I have about the effects
> of allowing userspace to insert code in the kernel that modifies
> packets. If we allow BPF programs to arbitrarily modify packets in
> LWT, how do we ensure that there are no insidious effects later in the
> path? For instance,  what someone uses BPF to convert an IPv6 packet
> to IPv4, or maybe convert packet to something that isn't even IP, or
> what if someone just decides to overwrite every byte in a packet with
> 0xff?

This is why modifying packets is not allowed on input at all as it
would invalidate the IP parsing that has already been done.

Writing is allowed for dst_output() on the basis that it is the
equivalent of a raw socket with header inclusion. If you look at
rawv6_send_hdrinc(), it does not perform any validation and calls into
dst_output() directly. I agree though that this must be made water
proof.

Pushing additional headers is only allowed at xmit, this is the
equivalent LWT MPLS.

> Are these thing allowed, and if so what is the effect? I would
> assume a policy that these can't cause any insidious effects to
> unrelated traffic or the rest of the system, in particular such things
> should not cause the  kernel to crash (based on the principle that
> user space code should never cause kernel to crash). I think XDP might

Agreed. Although it's already possible to hook a kernel module at LWT
or Netfilter to do arbitrary packet modifications, BPF must be held
at a higher standard even in privileged mode.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-31 17:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-30 11:58 [PATCH net-next 0/4] BPF for lightweight tunnel encapsulation Thomas Graf
2016-10-30 11:58 ` [PATCH net-next 1/4] route: Set orig_output when redirecting to lwt on locally generated traffic Thomas Graf
2016-10-30 11:58 ` [PATCH net-next 2/4] route: Set lwtstate for local traffic and cached input dsts Thomas Graf
2016-10-30 11:58 ` [PATCH net-next 3/4] bpf: BPF for lightweight tunnel encapsulation Thomas Graf
2016-10-30 20:34   ` Tom Herbert
2016-10-30 21:47     ` Thomas Graf
2016-10-31  1:28       ` Tom Herbert
2016-10-31  8:19         ` Thomas Graf
2016-10-31 12:59         ` Thomas Graf
2016-10-31 14:17           ` Tom Herbert
2016-10-31 15:06             ` Thomas Graf
2016-10-31 16:07               ` Tom Herbert
2016-10-31 17:35                 ` Thomas Graf [this message]
2016-10-30 11:58 ` [PATCH net-next 4/4] bpf: Add samples for LWT-BPF Thomas Graf

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