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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>
Cc: daniel@iogearbox.net, eric.dumazet@gmail.com, kubakici@wp.pl,
	shm@cumulusnetworks.com, davem@davemloft.net,
	alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	bblanco@plumgrid.com, john.r.fastabend@intel.com,
	brouer@redhat.com, tgraf@suug.ch
Subject: Re: [net-next PATCH v2 3/5] virtio_net: Add XDP support
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2016 16:58:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161122165400-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <58340157.8060103@gmail.com>

On Tue, Nov 22, 2016 at 12:27:03AM -0800, John Fastabend wrote:
> On 16-11-21 03:20 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 06:50:33PM -0800, John Fastabend wrote:
> >> From: Shrijeet Mukherjee <shrijeet@gmail.com>
> >>
> >> This adds XDP support to virtio_net. Some requirements must be
> >> met for XDP to be enabled depending on the mode. First it will
> >> only be supported with LRO disabled so that data is not pushed
> >> across multiple buffers. The MTU must be less than a page size
> >> to avoid having to handle XDP across multiple pages.
> >>
> >> If mergeable receive is enabled this first series only supports
> >> the case where header and data are in the same buf which we can
> >> check when a packet is received by looking at num_buf. If the
> >> num_buf is greater than 1 and a XDP program is loaded the packet
> >> is dropped and a warning is thrown. When any_header_sg is set this
> >> does not happen and both header and data is put in a single buffer
> >> as expected so we check this when XDP programs are loaded. Note I
> >> have only tested this with Linux vhost backend.
> >>
> >> If big packets mode is enabled and MTU/LRO conditions above are
> >> met then XDP is allowed.
> >>
> >> A follow on patch can be generated to solve the mergeable receive
> >> case with num_bufs equal to 2. Buffers greater than two may not
> >> be handled has easily.
> > 
> > 
> > I would very much prefer support for other layouts without drops
> > before merging this.
> > header by itself can certainly be handled by skipping it.
> > People wanted to use that e.g. for zero copy.
> 
> OK fair enough I'll do this now rather than push it out.
> 
> > 
> > Anything else can be handled by copying the packet.
> 
> This though I'm not so sure about. The copy is going to be slow and
> I wonder if someone could craft a packet to cause this if it could
> be used to slow down a system.

Device can always linearize if it wants to. If device is malicious
it's hard for OS to defend itself.

> Also I can't see what would cause this to happen. With mergeable
> buffers and LRO off the num_bufs is either 1 or 2 depending on where
> the header is. Otherwise with LRO off it should be in a single page.
> At least this is the Linux vhost implementation, I guess other
> implementation might meet spec but use num_buf > 2 or multiple pages
> even in the non LRO case.

Me neither but then not a long time ago we always placed
header in a separate entry until we saw the extra s/g has
measureable overhead.

network broken is kind of a heavy handed thing, making debugging
impossible for many people.

> I tend to think dropping the packet out right is better than copying
> it around. At very least if we do this we need to put in warnings so
> users can see something is mis-configured.
> 
> .John

Yes, I think that's a good idea.

-- 
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-22 14:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-20  2:49 [net-next PATCH v2 0/5] XDP for virtio_net John Fastabend
2016-11-20  2:49 ` [net-next PATCH v2 1/5] net: virtio dynamically disable/enable LRO John Fastabend
2016-11-21 23:23   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-11-22  8:16     ` John Fastabend
2016-11-20  2:50 ` [net-next PATCH v2 2/5] net: xdp: add invalid buffer warning John Fastabend
2016-11-20  2:50 ` [net-next PATCH v2 3/5] virtio_net: Add XDP support John Fastabend
2016-11-21 23:20   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-11-22  8:27     ` John Fastabend
2016-11-22 14:58       ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2016-11-25 21:24         ` John Fastabend
2016-11-28  3:36           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-11-28  3:56             ` John Fastabend
2016-11-28  4:07               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-11-28 23:26                 ` John Fastabend
2016-11-20  2:51 ` [net-next PATCH v2 4/5] virtio_net: add dedicated XDP transmit queues John Fastabend
2016-11-21 11:45   ` Daniel Borkmann
2016-11-21 15:56     ` John Fastabend
2016-11-21 23:13   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-11-22  8:17     ` John Fastabend
2016-11-22 14:59       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-11-20  2:51 ` [net-next PATCH v2 5/5] virtio_net: add XDP_TX support John Fastabend

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