From: Sebastian Reichel <sre@kernel.org>
To: "Pali Rohár" <pali.rohar@gmail.com>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
Michal Kazior <michal.kazior@tieto.com>,
Kalle Valo <kvalo@codeaurora.org>,
Ivaylo Dimitrov <ivo.g.dimitrov.75@gmail.com>,
Aaro Koskinen <aaro.koskinen@iki.fi>,
Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>,
linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: wl1251 & mac address & calibration data
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2016 19:11:39 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161124181138.4i6ehkpohjxfgpbn@earth> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201611241749.33681@pali>
[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 6231 bytes --]
Hi,
On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 05:49:33PM +0100, Pali Rohár wrote:
> On Thursday 24 November 2016 17:08:30 Sebastian Reichel wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 04:20:45PM +0100, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > On Thursday 24 November 2016 16:13:17 Sebastian Reichel wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 09:33:29AM +0100, Pali Rohár wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday 24 November 2016 08:51:04 Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > > > > > > "ifconfig hw ether XX" normally sets the address. I guess
> > > > > > > > that's ioctl?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This sets temporary address and it is ioctl. IIRC same as
> > > > > > > what ethtool uses. (ifconfig is already deprecated).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > And I guess we should use similar mechanism for permanent
> > > > > > > > address.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm not sure here... Above ioctl ↑↑↑ is for changing
> > > > > > > temporary mac address. But here we do not want to change
> > > > > > > permanent mac address. We want to tell kernel driver
> > > > > > > current permanent mac address which is stored
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well... I'd still use similar mechanism :-).
> > > > >
> > > > > Thats problematic, because in time when wlan0 interface is
> > > > > registered into system and visible in ifconfig output it
> > > > > already needs to have permanent mac address assigned.
> > > > >
> > > > > We should assign permanent mac address before wlan0 of wl1251
> > > > > is registered into system.
> > > >
> > > > You can just add the MAC address to the NVS data, which is also
> > > > required for the device initialization.
> > >
> > > NVS data file has fixed size, there is IIRC no place for it.
> > >
> > > But one of my suggestion was to use another request_firmware for
> > > MAC address. So this is similar to what you are proposing, as NVS
> > > data are loaded by request_firmware too...
> >
> > Just append it to NVS data and modify the size check accordingly?
>
> First that would mean to have request_firmware() function which will not
> use direct VFS access, but instead use userspace helper.
Permanent MAC is device specific init data, NVS is device specific
init data => load together.
The userspace helper stuff is only needed to get the data from
the NAND calibration area on the fly.
> NVS data file with some default values (not suitable for usage) is
> already present in linux-firmware and available in /lib/firmware/...
You mentioned NVS data is fixed size, so this should be enough?
switch(loaded_size)
case IMAGE_SIZE + MAC_SIZE:
/* extract mac */
/* fallthrough */
case IMAGE_SIZE:
/* load NVS */
break;
default:
/* fail */
}
> Also I'm not sure if such thing is allowed by license:
> https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git/tree/LICENCE.ti-connectivity
concating data is not a modification, otherwise you can't
put the file in a filesystem.
> > > > I wonder if those information could be put into DT. Iirc some
> > > > network devices get their MAC address from DT. Maybe we can add
> > > > all NVS info to DT? How much data is it?
> > >
> > > Proprietary, signed and closed bootloader NOLO does not support DT.
> > > So for booting you need to append DTS file to kernel image.
> >
> > Yeah, so NOLO without U-Boot will depend on userspace to fixup DT.
> >
> > > U-Boot is optional and can be used as intermediate bootloader
> > > between NOLO and kernel. But still it has problems with reading
> > > from nand, so cannot read NVS data nor MAC address.
> >
> > It may in the future?
>
> I already tried that, but I failed. I was not able to access N900's nand
> from u-boot. No idea where was problem...
>
> And if somebody fix onenand in u-boot, then needs to reimplement Nokia's
> proprietary parser of that partition where is stored NVS and mac address
> && make this support in upstream u-boot.
Are we talking about this?
https://github.com/community-ssu/libcal/blob/master/cal.c
That's ~1k loc for read-only. Getting NAND working looks harder than
porting this to me.
> So... I doubt it will be in any future.
>
> + no men power
yeah :(
But with that reasoning you should just extract the NVS data
from NAND and put it in your rootfs.
> > > > Userspace application can add all those information to the DT
> > > > using a DT overlay. Also the u-boot could parse and add it at
> > > > some point in the future.
> > >
> > > In case when wl1251 is statically linked into kernel image, it is
> > > loaded and initialized before even userspace applications starts.
> > >
> > > So no... adding NVS data or MAC address into DT or DT overlay is
> > > not a solution.
> >
> > Actually with data loaded from DT you *can* load data quite early in
> > the boot process, while your suggestions always require userspace.
> > So you argument against yourself?
>
> You cannot add DTS in uboot (no support).
AFAIK that's supported:
http://www.denx.de/wiki/DULG/LinuxFDTBlob
"Note that U-Boot makes some automatic modifications to the blob
before passing it to the kernel - mainly adding and modifying
information that is learnt at run-time."
> And if you modify DTS on running kernel from userspace, then it is
> too late when wl1251 is statically linked into kernel image.
>
> wl1251 will not wait until some userspace modify DTS and add data...
if (nvs info missing)
return -EPROBE_DEFER;
> But request_firmware() in fallback mode *can* wait for userspace so
> wl1251 can postpone its operation until mdev/udev/whatever starts
> listening for events and push needed firmware data to kernel.
As you said one workaround is waiting. That's not a solution, that
only works with request_firmware().
> So no, there is no argument against... request_firmware() in fallback
> mode with userspace helper is by design blocking and waiting for
> userspace. But waiting for some change in DTS in kernel is just
> nonsense.
I would just mark the wlan device with status = "disabled" and
enable it in the overlay together with adding the NVS & MAC info.
-- Sebastian
[-- Attachment #2: signature.asc --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 833 bytes --]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-11-24 18:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-11-11 17:20 wl1251 & mac address & calibration data Pali Rohár
2016-11-21 15:51 ` Pali Rohár
2016-11-22 15:22 ` Michal Kazior
2016-11-22 15:31 ` Pali Rohár
2016-11-22 16:14 ` Michal Kazior
2016-11-22 17:05 ` Pali Rohár
2016-11-23 8:24 ` Arend Van Spriel
2016-11-23 22:23 ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-23 22:39 ` Pali Rohár
2016-11-24 7:51 ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-24 8:33 ` Pali Rohár
2016-11-24 15:13 ` Sebastian Reichel
2016-11-24 15:20 ` Pali Rohár
2016-11-24 15:31 ` Ivaylo Dimitrov
2016-11-24 16:08 ` Sebastian Reichel
2016-11-24 16:49 ` Pali Rohár
2016-11-24 18:11 ` Sebastian Reichel [this message]
2016-11-24 18:35 ` Pali Rohár
2016-12-15 8:18 ` Kalle Valo
2016-12-15 15:33 ` Pali Rohár
2016-12-15 20:12 ` Arend Van Spriel
2016-12-16 2:03 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
[not found] ` <CAB=NE6VHF+U7DzapENvLMKtN4Dgi9J0qMoeUJ8o4vSwc2-rRFQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-16 7:25 ` Daniel Wagner
2016-12-16 10:40 ` Pali Rohár
2016-12-18 10:49 ` Arend Van Spriel
2016-12-18 11:04 ` Pali Rohár
2016-12-18 11:54 ` Arend Van Spriel
2016-12-18 12:09 ` Pali Rohár
2016-12-18 20:08 ` Arend Van Spriel
2016-12-20 11:47 ` Kalle Valo
2016-12-20 16:56 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-12-20 17:06 ` Pali Rohár
2016-12-20 17:11 ` Kalle Valo
[not found] ` <87bmw6ttim.fsf-HodKDYzPHsUD5k0oWYwrnHL1okKdlPRT@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-20 17:21 ` Tony Lindgren
2017-01-12 8:50 ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-16 10:35 ` Pali Rohár
[not found] ` <76365770-f5ba-9565-3fca-710518f64d81-dY08KVG/lbpWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2016-12-16 10:26 ` Pali Rohár
2016-11-24 18:46 ` Aaro Koskinen
[not found] ` <20161124184601.wo4al6nyzb6rmiqs-FnsA7b+Nu9XLHDo1XOr0g3XdqJI7FyRRX3B1VOXEql0@public.gmane.org>
2016-11-26 17:17 ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-26 17:20 ` Pali Rohár
2016-12-05 23:51 ` Tony Lindgren
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20161124181138.4i6ehkpohjxfgpbn@earth \
--to=sre@kernel.org \
--cc=aaro.koskinen@iki.fi \
--cc=ivo.g.dimitrov.75@gmail.com \
--cc=kvalo@codeaurora.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=michal.kazior@tieto.com \
--cc=netdev@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=pali.rohar@gmail.com \
--cc=pavel@ucw.cz \
--cc=tony@atomide.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox