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From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dave@stgolabs.net, dbueso@suse.de,
	dvyukov@google.com, jasowang@redhat.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] virtio/vringh: kill off ACCESS_ONCE()
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2016 11:22:03 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161125112203.GA26611@leverpostej> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161124222357-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>

On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 10:36:58PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 10:25:11AM +0000, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > For several reasons, it would be beneficial to kill off ACCESS_ONCE()
> > tree-wide, in favour of {READ,WRITE}_ONCE(). These work with aggregate types,
> > more obviously document their intended behaviour, and are necessary for tools
> > like KTSAN to work correctly (as otherwise reads and writes cannot be
> > instrumented separately).
> > 
> > While it's possible to script the bulk of this tree-wide conversion, some cases
> > such as the virtio code, require some manual intervention. This series moves
> > the virtio and vringh code over to {READ,WRITE}_ONCE(), in the process fixing a
> > bug in the virtio headers.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Mark.
> 
> I don't have a problem with this specific patchset.

Good to hear. :)

Does that mean you're happy to queue these patches? Or would you prefer
a new posting at some later point, with ack/review tags accumulated?

> Though I really question the whole _ONCE APIs esp with
> aggregate types - these seem to generate a memcpy and
> an 8-byte read/writes sometimes, and I'm pretty sure this simply
> can't be read/written at once on all architectures.

Yes, in cases where the access is larger than the machine can perform in
a single access, this will result in a memcpy.

My understanding is that this has always been the case with
ACCESS_ONCE(), where multiple accesses were silently/implicitly
generated by the compiler.

We could add some compile-time warnings for those cases. I'm not sure if
there's a reason we avoided doing that so far; perhaps Christian has a
some idea.

Thanks,
Mark.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-25 11:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-24 10:25 [PATCH 0/3] virtio/vringh: kill off ACCESS_ONCE() Mark Rutland
2016-11-24 10:25 ` [PATCH 1/3] tools/virtio: fix READ_ONCE() Mark Rutland
2016-11-24 11:34   ` Cornelia Huck
2016-11-25  2:38   ` Jason Wang
2016-11-24 10:25 ` [PATCH 2/3] vringh: kill off ACCESS_ONCE() Mark Rutland
2016-11-24 11:10   ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-11-24 11:35   ` Cornelia Huck
2016-11-25  2:40   ` Jason Wang
2016-11-24 10:25 ` [PATCH 3/3] tools/virtio: use {READ,WRITE}_ONCE() in uaccess.h Mark Rutland
2016-11-24 11:37   ` Cornelia Huck
2016-11-25  2:40   ` Jason Wang
2016-11-24 20:36 ` [PATCH 0/3] virtio/vringh: kill off ACCESS_ONCE() Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-11-25 11:22   ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2016-11-25 11:33     ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-11-25 12:23       ` Mark Rutland
2016-11-25 12:40         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-25 12:44           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-25 14:56             ` Boqun Feng
2016-11-25 15:21               ` Dmitry Vyukov
2016-11-25 16:10                 ` Mark Rutland
2016-11-25 16:17                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-25 16:32                     ` Mark Rutland
2016-11-25 16:49                     ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-11-25 17:28                       ` Mark Rutland
2016-11-25 17:42                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-11-25 18:46                         ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-11-25 21:08                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-11-25 21:45                         ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-11-25 17:28                     ` Dmitry Vyukov
2016-11-25 17:43                       ` Mark Rutland
2016-11-25 17:52                       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-11-25 18:07                         ` Mark Rutland
2016-11-25 18:47                           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-11-25 14:35           ` Mark Rutland

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