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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>, alexandre.torgue@st.com
Cc: peppe.cavallaro@st.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: stmmac ethernet in kernel 4.9-rc6: coalescing related pauses.
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2016 13:13:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161128121332.GC15034@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161124.110416.198867271899443489.davem@davemloft.net>

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Hi!

> >> drivers/net/ethernet/stmicro/stmmac/common.h
> >> #define STMMAC_COAL_TX_TIMER    40000
> >> #define STMMAC_MAX_COAL_TX_TICK 100000
> >> #define STMMAC_TX_MAX_FRAMES    256
> >> 
> >> If I lower the parameters, delays are gone, but I get netdev watchdog
> >> backtrace followed by broken driver.
> >> 
> >> Any ideas what is going on there?
> > 
> > 4.9-rc6 still has the delays. With the
> > 
> > #define STMMAC_COAL_TX_TIMER 1000
> > #define STMMAC_TX_MAX_FRAMES 2
> > 
> > settings, delays go away, and driver still works. (It fails fairly
> > fast in 4.4). Good news. But the question still is: what is going on
> > there?
> 
> 256 packets looks way too large for being a trigger for aborting the
> TX coalescing timer.
> 
> Looking more deeply into this, the driver is using non-highres timers
> to implement the TX coalescing.  This simply cannot work.
> 
> 1 HZ, which is the lowest granularity of non-highres timers in the
> kernel, is variable as well as already too large of a delay for
> effective TX coalescing.
> 
> I seriously think that the TX coalescing support should be ripped out
> or disabled entirely until it is implemented properly in this
> driver.

Hmm. I still don't understand how the coalescing is supposed to do any
good in this driver.

As long as transmits happen, it seems driver is not recycling used DMA
descriptors. When the transmits stops, it waits for 40msec, then
recycles them. We'll run out of DMA descriptors in 5msec at 100mbit
speeds.

Giuseppe Cavallaro, Alexandre Torgue: could you comment here? Can you
apply the cleanup patches? The driver is marked as supported, but I
see no reactions on email, and bugzilla is down :-(.

Thanks,
									Pavel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-11-28 12:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-23 10:51 stmmac ethernet in kernel 4.4: coalescing related pauses? Pavel Machek
2016-11-24  8:55 ` stmmac ethernet in kernel 4.9-rc6: coalescing related pauses Pavel Machek
2016-11-24 10:29   ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-24 10:36     ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-24 10:46       ` [PATCH] stmmac ethernet: unify locking Pavel Machek
2016-11-24 11:05         ` [PATCH] stmmac ethernet: remove cut & paste code Pavel Machek
2016-11-24 20:05           ` Joe Perches
2016-11-24 21:44             ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-24 22:27               ` Joe Perches
2016-11-28 11:50                 ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-28 14:24                   ` Joe Perches
2016-11-28 14:35                     ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-28 16:03                       ` Joe Perches
2016-11-24 16:04   ` stmmac ethernet in kernel 4.9-rc6: coalescing related pauses David Miller
2016-11-24 21:25     ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-02  8:24       ` Giuseppe CAVALLARO
2016-12-02  8:41         ` Giuseppe CAVALLARO
2016-12-02  8:45         ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-02  9:43           ` Giuseppe CAVALLARO
2016-12-02 12:32             ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-02 13:51               ` Giuseppe CAVALLARO
2016-12-02 14:26                 ` Alexandre Torgue
2016-12-02 15:19                   ` Giuseppe CAVALLARO
2016-12-05 12:14                     ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-05 12:01                 ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-05 10:15             ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-05 11:40               ` Lino Sanfilippo
2016-12-05 22:02                 ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-05 22:37                   ` Lino Sanfilippo
2016-12-05 22:40                     ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-05 22:54                       ` Lino Sanfilippo
2016-12-05 23:11                         ` Lino Sanfilippo
2016-12-02 14:05           ` Aw: " Lino Sanfilippo
2016-12-07 12:31             ` [RFC] " Pavel Machek
2016-12-07 13:18               ` Lino Sanfilippo
2016-12-05 11:56         ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-28 11:55     ` [PATCH] stmmac: fix comments, make debug output consistent Pavel Machek
2016-11-30  0:53       ` David Miller
2016-11-28 12:13     ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2016-11-28 12:17     ` [PATCH] stmmac: reduce code duplication getting basic descriptors Pavel Machek
2016-11-28 15:25       ` kbuild test robot
2016-12-02 14:09       ` Alexandre Torgue
2016-11-30 11:44     ` [PATCH] stmmac: simplify flag assignment Pavel Machek
2016-12-01 20:23       ` David Miller
2016-12-01 22:48         ` stmmac: turn coalescing / NAPI off in stmmac Pavel Machek
2016-12-02  8:39           ` Giuseppe CAVALLARO
2016-12-02 10:42             ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-02 15:31               ` Giuseppe CAVALLARO
2016-12-05 11:45                 ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-02  8:27       ` [PATCH] stmmac: simplify flag assignment Giuseppe CAVALLARO
2016-12-01 10:32     ` [PATCH] stmmac: cleanup documenation, make it match reality Pavel Machek
2016-12-03 20:07       ` David Miller
2016-12-05 12:27     ` [PATCH] stmmac: disable tx coalescing Pavel Machek
2016-12-11 19:07       ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-11 19:31         ` David Miller
2016-12-11 19:57           ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-28 13:07 ` stmmac ethernet in kernel 4.4: coalescing related pauses? Lino Sanfilippo
2016-11-28 14:54   ` David Miller
2016-11-28 15:31     ` Eric Dumazet
2016-11-28 15:57       ` Lino Sanfilippo
2016-11-28 16:30         ` David Miller
2016-11-28 17:01           ` Lino Sanfilippo
2016-11-30 10:28       ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-28 15:33     ` Lino Sanfilippo

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