From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Giuseppe CAVALLARO <peppe.cavallaro@st.com>, alexandre.torgue@st.com
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: stmmac ethernet in kernel 4.9-rc6: coalescing related pauses.
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2016 09:45:11 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161202084511.GA32294@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b6ac7a3c-6774-9568-1cc0-97074eaa928f@st.com>
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Hi!
> >>1 HZ, which is the lowest granularity of non-highres timers in the
> >>kernel, is variable as well as already too large of a delay for
> >>effective TX coalescing.
> >>
> >>I seriously think that the TX coalescing support should be ripped out
> >>or disabled entirely until it is implemented properly in this
> >>driver.
> >
> >Ok, I'd disable coalescing, but could not figure it out till. What is
> >generic way to do that?
> >
> >It seems only thing stmmac_tx_timer() does is calling
> >stmmac_tx_clean(), which reclaims tx_skbuff[] entries. It should be
> >possible to do that explicitely, without delay, but it stops working
> >completely if I attempt to do that.
> >
> >On a side note, stmmac_poll() does stmmac_enable_dma_irq() while
> >stmmac_dma_interrupt() disables interrupts. But I don't see any
> >protection between the two, so IMO it could race and we'd end up
> >without polling or interrupts...
>
>
> the idea behind the TX mitigation is to mix the interrupt and
> timer and this approach gave us real benefit in terms
> of performances and CPU usage (especially on SH4-200/SH4-300 platforms
> based).
Well, if you have a workload that sends and receive packets, it tends
to work ok, as you do tx_clean() in stmmac_poll(). My workload is not
like that -- it is "sending packets at 3MB/sec, receiving none". So
the stmmac_tx_timer() is rescheduled and rescheduled and rescheduled,
and then we run out of transmit descriptors, and then 40msec passes,
and then we clean them. Bad.
And that's why low-res timers do not cut it.
> In the ring, some descriptors can raise the irq (according to a
> threshold) and set the IC bit. In this path, the NAPI poll will be
> scheduled.
Not NAPI poll but stmmac_tx_timer(), right?
> But there is a timer that can run (and we experimented that no high
> resolution is needed) to clear the tx resources.
> Concerning the lock protection, we had reviewed long time ago and
> IIRC, no raise condition should be present. Open to review it,
> again!
Well, I certainly like the fact that we are talking :-).
And yes, I have some questions.
There's nothing that protect stmmac_poll() from running concurently
with stmmac_dma_interrupt(), right?
Best regards,
Pavel
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Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-11-23 10:51 stmmac ethernet in kernel 4.4: coalescing related pauses? Pavel Machek
2016-11-24 8:55 ` stmmac ethernet in kernel 4.9-rc6: coalescing related pauses Pavel Machek
2016-11-24 10:29 ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-24 10:36 ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-24 10:46 ` [PATCH] stmmac ethernet: unify locking Pavel Machek
2016-11-24 11:05 ` [PATCH] stmmac ethernet: remove cut & paste code Pavel Machek
2016-11-24 20:05 ` Joe Perches
2016-11-24 21:44 ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-24 22:27 ` Joe Perches
2016-11-28 11:50 ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-28 14:24 ` Joe Perches
2016-11-28 14:35 ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-28 16:03 ` Joe Perches
2016-11-24 16:04 ` stmmac ethernet in kernel 4.9-rc6: coalescing related pauses David Miller
2016-11-24 21:25 ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-02 8:24 ` Giuseppe CAVALLARO
2016-12-02 8:41 ` Giuseppe CAVALLARO
2016-12-02 8:45 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2016-12-02 9:43 ` Giuseppe CAVALLARO
2016-12-02 12:32 ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-02 13:51 ` Giuseppe CAVALLARO
2016-12-02 14:26 ` Alexandre Torgue
2016-12-02 15:19 ` Giuseppe CAVALLARO
2016-12-05 12:14 ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-05 12:01 ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-05 10:15 ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-05 11:40 ` Lino Sanfilippo
2016-12-05 22:02 ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-05 22:37 ` Lino Sanfilippo
2016-12-05 22:40 ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-05 22:54 ` Lino Sanfilippo
2016-12-05 23:11 ` Lino Sanfilippo
2016-12-02 14:05 ` Aw: " Lino Sanfilippo
2016-12-07 12:31 ` [RFC] " Pavel Machek
2016-12-07 13:18 ` Lino Sanfilippo
2016-12-05 11:56 ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-28 11:55 ` [PATCH] stmmac: fix comments, make debug output consistent Pavel Machek
2016-11-30 0:53 ` David Miller
2016-11-28 12:13 ` stmmac ethernet in kernel 4.9-rc6: coalescing related pauses Pavel Machek
2016-11-28 12:17 ` [PATCH] stmmac: reduce code duplication getting basic descriptors Pavel Machek
2016-11-28 15:25 ` kbuild test robot
2016-12-02 14:09 ` Alexandre Torgue
2016-11-30 11:44 ` [PATCH] stmmac: simplify flag assignment Pavel Machek
2016-12-01 20:23 ` David Miller
2016-12-01 22:48 ` stmmac: turn coalescing / NAPI off in stmmac Pavel Machek
2016-12-02 8:39 ` Giuseppe CAVALLARO
2016-12-02 10:42 ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-02 15:31 ` Giuseppe CAVALLARO
2016-12-05 11:45 ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-02 8:27 ` [PATCH] stmmac: simplify flag assignment Giuseppe CAVALLARO
2016-12-01 10:32 ` [PATCH] stmmac: cleanup documenation, make it match reality Pavel Machek
2016-12-03 20:07 ` David Miller
2016-12-05 12:27 ` [PATCH] stmmac: disable tx coalescing Pavel Machek
2016-12-11 19:07 ` Pavel Machek
2016-12-11 19:31 ` David Miller
2016-12-11 19:57 ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-28 13:07 ` stmmac ethernet in kernel 4.4: coalescing related pauses? Lino Sanfilippo
2016-11-28 14:54 ` David Miller
2016-11-28 15:31 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-11-28 15:57 ` Lino Sanfilippo
2016-11-28 16:30 ` David Miller
2016-11-28 17:01 ` Lino Sanfilippo
2016-11-30 10:28 ` Pavel Machek
2016-11-28 15:33 ` Lino Sanfilippo
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