From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>,
Vivien Didelot <vivien.didelot@savoirfairelinux.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Gregory Clement <gregory.clement@free-electrons.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
"moderated list:ARM SUB-ARCHITECTURES"
<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
Sebastian Hesselbarth <sebastian.hesselbarth@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v3 06/10] net: dsa: Migrate to device_find_class()
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 17:30:13 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170119163013.GA22777@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170119145315.GD21805@lunn.ch>
On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 03:53:15PM +0100, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > > > struct dsa_platform_data {
> > > > /*
> > > > * Reference to a Linux network interface that connects
> > > > * to the root switch chip of the tree.
> > > > */
> > > > struct device *netdev;
> >
> > This I think is the oddest thing, why do you need to have the "root
> > switch" here? You seem to have dropped the next value in this
> > structure:
> > struct net_device *of_netdev;
>
> We are implementing platform_data for devices which don't support
> device tree. When using OF, we don't have any of these issues. We can
> go straight to the device.
>
> It is a bit convoluted, but look at
> arch/arm/mach-orion5x/rd88f5181l-ge-setup.c. It defines the start of
> the dsa_platform_data in that file. It then gets passed through
> common.c: orion5x_eth_switch_init() to
> arch/arm/plat-orion/common.c:orion_ge00_switch_init() :
>
> void __init orion_ge00_switch_init(struct dsa_platform_data *d)
> {
> int i;
>
> d->netdev = &orion_ge00.dev;
> for (i = 0; i < d->nr_chips; i++)
> d->chip[i].host_dev = &orion_ge_mvmdio.dev;
>
> platform_device_register_data(NULL, "dsa", 0, d, sizeof(d));
> }
>
> Where we have
>
> static struct platform_device orion_ge00 = {
> .name = MV643XX_ETH_NAME,
> .id = 0,
> .num_resources = 1,
> .resource = orion_ge00_resources,
> .dev = {
> .coherent_dma_mask = DMA_BIT_MASK(32),
> },
> };
>
> So this is the platform device for the Ethernet device. We cannot go
> to the net_device, because it does not exist until this Ethernet
> platform device is instantiated.
Ok, fine, but why isn't the ethernet device a child of this platform
device? Why is it floating around somewhere else? You don't see that
happening for other devices.
> > Shouldn't you have a bus for RGMII devices? Is that the real problem
> > here, you don't have a representation for your RGMII "bus" with a
> > controller to bundle everything under (like a USB host controller, it
> > bridges from one bus to another).
>
> RGMII is not a bus. It is a point to point link.
That's fine, but you have multiple devices talking across it, so in the
kernel driver model "naming", it's a bus. Anything can be a bus, it's
just a way to group together devices of the same type.
> Normally, it is
> between the Ethernet MAC and the Ethernet PHY. But you can also have
> it between an Ethernet MAC and another Ethernet MAC. I'm not sure
> describing this is a bus would be practical. It would mean every
> ethernet driver also becomes a bus driver!
Instead of a custom platform device driver, yes. Is that a big deal?
How many do you have?
> Every Ethernet PHY would become a bus device. That is a huge change,
> for a few legacy boards which are not getting converted to device
> tree.
How many different drivers are we talking about here?
> > If so, why is eth1 not below f1072004.mdio-mi in the heirachy already?
>
> See the initial diagram above. The switch has two parents. It hangs of
> an MDIO bus, and you would like to make RGMII also a bus. Can the
> device model handle that? I thought it was a tree, not a graph?
It is a tree, you are correct. But right now you are picking and
choosing where you want to put that network device. Why not put it over
on the mdio bus? Or, like I mentioned, make it a custom bus where you
can properly show this relationship, not just in a generic "let's jump
to the parent and poke around randomly."
Again, it's that last sentance that I object the most to here. You all
keep ignoring it for some reason...
thanks,
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-01-19 16:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-01-14 21:47 [PATCH net-next v3 00/10] net: dsa: Support for pdata in dsa2 Florian Fainelli
2017-01-14 21:47 ` [PATCH net-next v3 01/10] net: dsa: Pass device pointer to dsa_register_switch Florian Fainelli
2017-01-14 21:47 ` [PATCH net-next v3 02/10] net: dsa: Make most functions take a dsa_port argument Florian Fainelli
2017-01-14 21:47 ` [PATCH net-next v3 03/10] net: dsa: Suffix function manipulating device_node with _dn Florian Fainelli
2017-01-14 21:47 ` [PATCH net-next v3 04/10] net: dsa: Move ports assignment closer to error checking Florian Fainelli
2017-01-15 10:17 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2017-01-14 21:47 ` [PATCH net-next v3 05/10] drivers: base: Add device_find_class() Florian Fainelli
2017-01-15 11:04 ` Greg KH
2017-01-15 17:39 ` Florian Fainelli
2017-01-14 21:47 ` [PATCH net-next v3 06/10] net: dsa: Migrate to device_find_class() Florian Fainelli
2017-01-15 11:06 ` Greg KH
2017-01-15 17:27 ` Florian Fainelli
2017-01-15 17:39 ` Greg KH
2017-01-15 17:52 ` Florian Fainelli
2017-01-15 19:16 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-01-16 20:01 ` Florian Fainelli
2017-01-18 7:06 ` Greg KH
2017-01-19 14:28 ` Greg KH
2017-01-19 14:53 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-01-19 16:30 ` Greg KH [this message]
2017-01-19 16:35 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-19 16:51 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-01-19 18:12 ` Florian Fainelli
2017-01-24 18:59 ` Florian Fainelli
2017-01-25 21:25 ` Greg KH
2017-01-30 22:46 ` Florian Fainelli
2017-02-10 13:02 ` Greg KH
2017-02-10 18:30 ` Florian Fainelli
2017-02-12 12:56 ` Greg KH
2017-01-14 21:47 ` [PATCH net-next v3 07/10] net: Relocate dev_to_net_device() into core Florian Fainelli
2017-01-15 11:07 ` Greg KH
2017-01-15 17:20 ` Florian Fainelli
2017-01-15 17:40 ` Greg KH
2017-01-14 21:47 ` [PATCH net-next v3 08/10] net: dsa: Add support for platform data Florian Fainelli
2017-01-14 21:47 ` [PATCH net-next v3 09/10] net: phy: Allow pre-declaration of MDIO devices Florian Fainelli
2017-01-14 21:47 ` [PATCH net-next v3 10/10] ARM: orion: Register DSA switch as a MDIO device Florian Fainelli
2017-01-15 11:08 ` [PATCH net-next v3 00/10] net: dsa: Support for pdata in dsa2 Greg KH
2017-01-15 17:40 ` Florian Fainelli
2017-01-15 17:49 ` Greg KH
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