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From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>
To: Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com>
Cc: brouer@redhat.com, <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, <kernel-team@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 1/8] xdp: Infrastructure to generalize XDP
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2017 21:31:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170214213157.32e37148@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170208234127.3041579-2-tom@herbertland.com>

On Wed, 8 Feb 2017 15:41:20 -0800
Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com> wrote:

> +static inline int __xdp_run_one_hook(struct xdp_hook *hook,
> +				     struct xdp_buff *xdp)
> +{
> +	void *priv = rcu_dereference(hook->priv);
> +
> +	if (hook->is_bpf) {
> +		/* Run BPF programs directly do avoid one layer of
> +		 * indirection.
> +		 */
> +		return BPF_PROG_RUN((struct bpf_prog *)priv, (void *)xdp);
> +	} else {
> +		return hook->hookfn(priv, xdp);
> +	}
> +}
> +
> +/* Core function to run the XDP hooks. This must be as fast as possible */
> +static inline int __xdp_hook_run(struct xdp_hook_set *hook_set,
> +				 struct xdp_buff *xdp,
> +				 struct xdp_hook **last_hook)
> +{
> +	struct xdp_hook *hook;
> +	int i, ret;
> +
> +	if (unlikely(!hook_set))
> +		return XDP_PASS;
> +
> +	hook = &hook_set->hooks[0];
> +	ret = __xdp_run_one_hook(hook, xdp);
> +	*last_hook = hook;
> +
> +	for (i = 1; i < hook_set->num; i++) {
> +		if (ret != XDP_PASS)
> +			break;
> +		hook = &hook_set->hooks[i];
> +		ret = __xdp_run_one_hook(hook, xdp);
> +	}
> +
> +	return ret;
> +}

There is one basic problem with this approach.  There is no bulking and
no reuse of instruction cache.  There is no revolution in this approach.
We will end-up with the same known performance problems when more hook
users get added.

Calling N-number of hooks per every packet, will just end-up flushing
the instruction cache (like the issues we have today).

Instead take N-packets, and then call the hooks by turn (store action
verdicts in packet-vector).  Such an architecture would be inline with
that VPP, Snabb and DPDK is doing.  Optimizing icache usage, and opens
up for smarter prefetching of lookup tables.  Imagine, having hook-1
identify lookup bucket and start prefetch, hook-2 access the bucket and
prefetch table data, and hook-3 read data.  This is what DPDK is doing
see[1], and VPP is doing similar tricks to get it to scale to large
route lookup tables.

[1] http://dpdk.org/doc/guides/prog_guide/packet_framework.html#figure-figure35

-- 
Best regards,
  Jesper Dangaard Brouer
  MSc.CS, Principal Kernel Engineer at Red Hat
  LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/brouer

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-02-14 20:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-08 23:41 [PATCH RFC v2 0/8] xdp: Generalize XDP Tom Herbert
2017-02-08 23:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 1/8] xdp: Infrastructure to generalize XDP Tom Herbert
2017-02-09  7:49   ` Jiri Pirko
2017-02-09 14:22   ` Mintz, Yuval
2017-02-09 22:17   ` David Miller
2017-02-09 22:26     ` Tom Herbert
2017-02-09 22:34       ` David Miller
2017-02-09 22:45         ` Tom Herbert
2017-02-10  1:42           ` David Miller
2017-02-10  2:29             ` Tom Herbert
2017-02-10  3:33               ` David Miller
2017-02-10  4:55                 ` Tom Herbert
2017-02-10 15:12                   ` David Miller
2017-02-09 23:08         ` Tom Herbert
2017-02-10  1:48           ` David Miller
2017-02-10  2:30             ` Tom Herbert
2017-02-10  5:42               ` Jason Wang
2017-02-13  2:41   ` [lkp-robot] [xdp] 543d41bf78: INFO:suspicious_RCU_usage kernel test robot
2017-02-14 20:31   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer [this message]
2017-02-14 20:47     ` [PATCH RFC v2 1/8] xdp: Infrastructure to generalize XDP Tom Herbert
2017-02-14 21:07       ` Tom Herbert
2017-02-14 22:08         ` Edward Cree
2017-02-14 22:28           ` Tom Herbert
2017-02-14 22:29           ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-02-08 23:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 2/8] mlx4: Changes to use generic XDP infrastructure Tom Herbert
2017-02-08 23:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 3/8] nfp: " Tom Herbert
2017-02-08 23:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 4/8] qede: " Tom Herbert
2017-02-08 23:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 5/8] virt_net: " Tom Herbert
2017-02-08 23:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/8] mlx5: " Tom Herbert
2017-02-08 23:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 7/8] bnxt: " Tom Herbert
2017-02-08 23:41 ` [PATCH RFC v2 8/8] xdp: Cleanup after API changes Tom Herbert

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