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From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>
To: John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>
Cc: Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	John Fastabend <john.r.fastabend@intel.com>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	brouer@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Questions on XDP
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 22:59:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170222225924.59cdd82c@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <58ADC5A5.7020408@gmail.com>

On Wed, 22 Feb 2017 09:08:53 -0800
John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com> wrote:

> > GSO/TSO is getting into advanced stuff I would rather not have to get
> > into right now.  I figure we need to take this portion one step at a
> > time.  To support GSO we need more information like the mss.
> >   
> 
> Agreed lets get the driver support for basic things first. But this
> is on my list. I'm just repeating myself but VM to VM performance uses
> TSO/LRO heavily.

Sorry, but I get annoyed every time I hear we need to support
TSO/LRO/GRO for performance reasons.  If you take one step back, you
are actually saying we need bulking for better performance.  And the
bulking you are proposing is a TCP protocol specific bulking mechanism.

I'm saying is let's make bulking protocol agnostic, by doing it at the
packet level.  And once the bulk enters the VM, by-all-means it should
construct a GRO packet it can send into it's own network stack.

-- 
Best regards,
  Jesper Dangaard Brouer
  MSc.CS, Principal Kernel Engineer at Red Hat
  LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/brouer

  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-22 22:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-18 23:31 Questions on XDP Alexei Starovoitov
2017-02-18 23:48 ` John Fastabend
2017-02-18 23:59   ` Eric Dumazet
2017-02-19  2:16   ` Alexander Duyck
2017-02-19  3:48     ` John Fastabend
2017-02-20 20:06       ` Jakub Kicinski
2017-02-22  5:02         ` John Fastabend
2017-02-21  3:18     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-02-21  3:39       ` John Fastabend
2017-02-21  4:00         ` Alexander Duyck
2017-02-21  7:55           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-02-21 17:44             ` Alexander Duyck
2017-02-22 17:08               ` John Fastabend
2017-02-22 21:59                 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-02-18 23:59 Alexei Starovoitov
2017-02-16 20:41 Alexander Duyck
2017-02-16 22:36 ` John Fastabend
2017-02-18 16:34   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-02-18 17:41     ` Eric Dumazet
2017-02-18 18:18       ` Alexander Duyck
2017-02-18 23:28         ` John Fastabend

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