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From: Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@redhat.com>
To: Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, Jiri Benc <jbenc@redhat.com>,
	"Keller, Jacob E" <jacob.e.keller@intel.com>,
	Denny Page <dennypage@me.com>,
	Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>
Subject: Re: Extending socket timestamping API for NTP
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2017 08:25:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170324072511.GC8192@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170323190733.GA30056@localhost.localdomain>

On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 08:07:33PM +0100, Richard Cochran wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 05:21:45PM +0100, Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
> > A better approach might be a control message that would provide the
> > original interface index together with the length of the packet, so
> > the application could transpose the HW timestamp and map the HW
> > interface to the PHC.
> 
> This sounds better than trying to auto-magically transpose and correct
> for link speed.
> 
> BTW, isn't there already a control message for "original interface
> index"?

There is the PACKET_ORIGDEV option, but it works only with packet
sockets, and it doesn't look to me like it could be easily turned into
a SO_ORIGDEV option. If there was such an option and also a SO_ORIGLEN
option, I think that would work nicely for me.

> > The two values could be saved in the skb_shared_info structure. Now
> > my question is if they could be useful also for other things than
> > timestamping
> 
> such as?

I'm not sure. What people do with PACKET_ORIGDEV and would it make
sense with other sockets? Googling "PACKET_ORIGDEV" shows
implementations of some low-level protocols.

> > and if it should be a new socket option which would work
> > on any socket independently from timestamping, or if it should rather
> > be a new flag for the SO_TIMESTAMPING option. If the latter, would it
> > make sense to put them in the skb_shared_hwtstamps structure and
> > modify all drivers to set the values when a HW timestamp is captured
> > instead of adding more code to __netif_receive_skb_core() or similar?
> 
> This information is solely for a highly specialized NTP application.
> No normal program would ever need this, AFAICT.  So, if possible,
> getting the original frame length should be done in a way that doesn't
> affect users that don't need it.

Ok. I'll put the two fields to skb_shared_hwtstamps, taking the place
of the old syststamp field, and try to avoid adding any code to paths
not specific to timestamping.

Thanks,

-- 
Miroslav Lichvar

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-24  7:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-07 14:01 Extending socket timestamping API for NTP Miroslav Lichvar
2017-02-07 17:45 ` Keller, Jacob E
2017-02-07 22:32   ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-02-08 14:18     ` Soheil Hassas Yeganeh
2017-02-27 15:23     ` Miroslav Lichvar
2017-02-28  0:01       ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-02-28  8:26         ` Miroslav Lichvar
2017-02-28 21:05           ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-02-08  1:52   ` Denny Page
2017-02-08  5:27     ` Richard Cochran
2017-02-08  5:48       ` Denny Page
2017-02-08 17:27       ` Denny Page
2017-02-07 18:54 ` Soheil Hassas Yeganeh
2017-02-08 10:14   ` Miroslav Lichvar
2017-02-07 20:37 ` sdncurious
2017-02-08 10:26   ` Miroslav Lichvar
2017-02-08 23:27     ` sdncurious
2017-02-08 23:34     ` sdncurious
2017-02-08  1:18 ` Denny Page
     [not found] ` <CAHoNx58u=Fze4e5V2Wb_LiBhka1Mzny3zOVNfvuzjnmQ4wBO=Q@mail.gmail.com>
2017-02-08  3:06   ` Denny Page
2017-02-09  0:45 ` Denny Page
2017-02-09 11:15   ` Miroslav Lichvar
2017-02-09 20:25   ` Denny Page
2017-02-09  8:02 ` Richard Cochran
2017-02-09 11:09   ` Miroslav Lichvar
2017-02-09 19:42     ` sdncurious
2017-02-09 20:37       ` Denny Page
2017-02-10  0:33       ` Denny Page
2017-02-10 18:55         ` Denny Page
2017-03-23 16:21     ` Miroslav Lichvar
2017-03-23 18:54       ` Denny Page
2017-03-23 19:07       ` Richard Cochran
2017-03-24  7:25         ` Miroslav Lichvar [this message]
     [not found]       ` <6121D504-288F-4C9B-9AB3-D1C8292965D5@me.com>
2017-03-24  9:45         ` Miroslav Lichvar
2017-03-24 17:17           ` Denny Page
2017-03-24 18:52             ` Keller, Jacob E
2017-03-27 10:13             ` Miroslav Lichvar
2017-03-27 14:29               ` Richard Cochran
2017-03-27 16:25                 ` Denny Page
2017-03-27 18:28                   ` Richard Cochran
2017-03-27 19:18                     ` Denny Page
2017-03-27 20:58                       ` Richard Cochran
2017-03-27 21:20                         ` Denny Page
2017-03-27 19:21                     ` Denny Page
2017-03-27 19:21                     ` Denny Page
     [not found]                     ` <5FD283AB-39DE-4A9D-902A-BA5F0F0B62A3@me.com>
2017-03-27 21:00                       ` Richard Cochran
2017-03-24  9:55         ` Jiri Benc

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