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From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <kubakici@wp.pl>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, xdp-newbies@vger.kernel.org,
	brouer@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 net-next RFC] Generic XDP
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 22:26:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170416222601.671f037c@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170415004642.GA73685@ast-mbp.thefacebook.com>

On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 17:46:44 -0700
Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com> wrote:

> But that's probably bad idea, since I was assuming that such ring
> reconfiguration can be made fast, which is unlikely.
> If it takes seconds to setup a ring, then drivers should just
> assume XDP_PACKET_HEADROOM, since at that time the program
> properties are unknown and in the future other programs will be loaded.
>
> Take a look at our current setup with slots for xdp_dump, ddos, lb
> programs. Only root program is attached at the begining.
> If the driver configures the ring for such empty program that would break
> dynamic addition of lb prog.
> The driver must not interrupt the traffic when user adds another
> prog to prog array. In such case XDP side doesn't even know that
> prog array is used. It's all happening purely on bpf side.

The bpf tail-call use-case is a very good example of why the verifier
cannot deduct the needed HEADROOM upfront.

Could we still make the verifier reject a program getting attached as a
tail-call when a too "low"/small HEADROOM have been setup? (to satisfy
programs needs)

-- 
Best regards,
  Jesper Dangaard Brouer
  MSc.CS, Principal Kernel Engineer at Red Hat
  LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/brouer

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-04-16 20:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-12 18:54 [PATCH v3 net-next RFC] Generic XDP David Miller
2017-04-12 19:54 ` David Ahern
2017-04-13  2:08   ` David Miller
2017-04-13  2:16     ` David Ahern
2017-04-12 21:30 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-04-12 21:49   ` Eric Dumazet
2017-04-13  1:55     ` David Miller
2017-04-13  1:54   ` David Miller
2017-04-13  4:20 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-04-13  6:10   ` Johannes Berg
2017-04-13 15:38     ` David Miller
2017-04-14 19:41       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-04-18  9:47         ` Johannes Berg
2017-04-18 23:09           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-04-13 15:37   ` David Miller
2017-04-13 19:22     ` Johannes Berg
2017-04-13 20:01       ` David Miller
2017-04-14  8:07         ` Johannes Berg
2017-04-14 19:09           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-04-14  9:05     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-04-14 19:28       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-04-14 22:18         ` Daniel Borkmann
2017-04-14 22:30         ` Jakub Kicinski
2017-04-15  0:46           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-04-15  1:47             ` Jakub Kicinski
2017-04-16 20:26             ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer [this message]
2017-04-17 19:49               ` David Miller
2017-04-17 23:04                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-04-17 23:33                   ` Daniel Borkmann
2017-04-18 18:46                   ` David Miller
2017-04-18 23:05                     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-04-13  6:48 ` Michael Chan
2017-04-13 15:38   ` David Miller
2017-04-13 15:57 ` Daniel Borkmann
2017-04-13 16:04   ` David Miller
2017-04-13 17:13 ` aa5c2fd79f: net/core/dev.c:#suspicious_rcu_dereference_check()usage kernel test robot

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