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From: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
To: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>
Cc: Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@google.com>,
	Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	Kostya Serebryany <kcc@google.com>,
	syzkaller <syzkaller@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: net: cleanup_net is slow
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 21:27:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170421192729.GA8853@breakpoint.cc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANn89i+iYtPLGDZpt3qk_cA-dq+004B=1qjP0ZygY3oREskQYA@mail.gmail.com>

Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 10:50 AM, Andrey Konovalov
> <andreyknvl@google.com> wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > We're investigating some approaches to improve isolation of syzkaller
> > programs. One of the ideas is run each program in it's own user/net
> > namespace. However, while I was experimenting with this, I stumbled
> > upon a problem.
> >
> > It seems that cleanup_net() might take a very long time to execute.
> >
> > I've attached the reproducer and kernel .config that I used. Run as
> > "./a.out 1". The reproducer just forks and does unshare(CLONE_NEWNET)
> > in a loop. Note, that I have a lot of network-related configs enabled,
> > which causes a few interfaces to be set up by default.
> >
> > What I see with this reproducer is that at first a huge number
> > (~200-300) net namespaces are created without any contention. But then
> > (probably when one of these namespaces gets destroyed) the program
> > hangs for a considerable amount of time (~100 seconds in my vm).
> > Nothing locks up inside the kernel and the CPU is mostly idle.
> >
> > Adding debug printfs showed that the part that takes almost all of
> > that time is the lines between synchronize_rcu() and
> > mutex_unlock(&net_mutex) in cleanup_net. Running perf showed that the
> > cause of this might be a lot of calls to synchronize_net that happen
> > while executing those lines.
> >
> > Is there any change that can be done to speed up the
> > creation/destruction of a huge number of net namespaces?
> >
> 
> We have batches, but fundamentally this is a hard problem to solve.
> 
> Every time we try, we add bugs :/
> 
> RTNL is the new BKL (Big Kernel Lock of early linux) of today.
> 
> Even the synchronize_rcu_expedited() done from synchronize_net() is a
> serious issue on some platforms.

Indeed.  Setting net.netfilter.nf_conntrack_default_on=0 cuts time
cleanup time by 2/3 ...

nf unregister is way too happy to issue synchronize_net(), I'll work on
a fix.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-21 19:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-21 17:50 net: cleanup_net is slow Andrey Konovalov
2017-04-21 17:57 ` Eric Dumazet
2017-04-21 19:27   ` Florian Westphal [this message]
2017-04-21 19:45     ` Florian Westphal
2017-04-24 11:58       ` Andrey Konovalov
2017-04-24 12:08         ` Florian Westphal
2017-04-21 19:45   ` Dmitry Vyukov

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