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From: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kubakici@wp.pl>
Cc: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>,
	Daniel Borkmann <borkmann@iogearbox.net>,
	John Fastabend <john.r.fastabend@intel.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC net-next PATCH 4/5] net: new XDP feature for reading HW rxhash from drivers
Date: Fri, 19 May 2017 20:34:00 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170520033358.hjz7ocy2fupwplym@ast-mbp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170519202147.3c6bda7f@cakuba.netronome.com>

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 08:21:47PM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Fri, 19 May 2017 20:07:52 -0700, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > How about exposing 'struct mlx5_cqe64 *' to XDP programs as-is?
> > We can make sure that XDP program does read only access into it and
> > it will see cqe->rss_hash_result, cqe->rss_hash_type and everything else
> > in there, but this will not be uapi and it will be pretty obvious
> > to program authors that their programs are vendor specific.
> > 'not uapi' here means that mellanox is free to change their HW descriptor
> > and its contents as they wish.
> 
> Hm..  Would that mean we have to teach the verifier about all possible
> drivers and their metadata structures (i.e. sizes thereof).  And add an
> UAPI enum of known drivers?

why? no uapi other than a pointer to this hw rx descriptor.
Different sizeof(hw_rx_descriptor) is not a problem.
We deal with it already in tracing. All tracepoints have different
sizeof(*ctx), yet the safety is preserved.

> Other idea I floated in early days was to standardize the fields but
> let the driver "JIT" the accesses to look at the right offset of the
> right structure.  Admittedly that would be a lot more work.

'standardize the fields' sounds nice, but failed here already.
As far as I can see the meaning of packet 'hash' is quite different
across the drivers and 'hash' is just a beginning.
I hope we can standardize on 'csum' field and make it checksum_complete,
but so far out of 10+G nics only mlx5 and nfp do it in hw.
We need it at least for mlx4, but it can only fake it via expensive math.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-20  3:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-18 15:41 [RFC net-next PATCH 0/5] XDP driver feature API and handling change to xdp_buff Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-05-18 15:41 ` [RFC net-next PATCH 1/5] samples/bpf: xdp_tx_iptunnel make use of map_data[] Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-05-19 15:45   ` Daniel Borkmann
2017-05-18 15:41 ` [RFC net-next PATCH 2/5] mlx5: fix bug reading rss_hash_type from CQE Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-05-19 15:47   ` Daniel Borkmann
2017-05-19 23:38   ` David Miller
2017-05-22 18:27     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-05-18 15:41 ` [RFC net-next PATCH 3/5] net: introduce XDP driver features interface Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-05-19 17:13   ` Daniel Borkmann
2017-05-19 23:37     ` David Miller
2017-05-20  7:53     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-05-21  0:58       ` Daniel Borkmann
2017-05-22 14:49         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-05-22 17:07           ` Daniel Borkmann
2017-05-30  9:58             ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-05-18 15:41 ` [RFC net-next PATCH 4/5] net: new XDP feature for reading HW rxhash from drivers Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-05-19 11:47   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-05-20  3:07   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-05-20  3:21     ` Jakub Kicinski
2017-05-20  3:34       ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2017-05-20  4:13         ` Jakub Kicinski
2017-05-21 15:55     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-05-22  3:21       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-05-22  4:12         ` John Fastabend
2017-05-20 16:16   ` Tom Herbert
2017-05-21 16:04     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-05-21 22:10       ` Tom Herbert
2017-05-22  6:39         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-05-22 20:42           ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-05-22 21:32             ` Tom Herbert
2017-05-18 15:41 ` [RFC net-next PATCH 5/5] mlx5: add XDP rxhash feature for driver mlx5 Jesper Dangaard Brouer

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