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From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] net: phy: hook up clause 45 autonegotiation restart
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 17:24:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170601162417.GA14541@n2100.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170601154735.GB22219@n2100.armlinux.org.uk>

On Thu, Jun 01, 2017 at 04:47:35PM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 01, 2017 at 03:19:55PM +0200, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 01, 2017 at 02:09:00PM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jun 01, 2017 at 03:05:27PM +0200, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > > > So you are saying a 10G PHY driver always needs to have a aneg_done
> > > > callback, even if it just needs to call phygen_c45_aneg_done?
> > > > 
> > > > This seems a bit error prone. I can see somebody writing a 10G driver,
> > > > leaving out aneg_done() and having the c22 version called. Is the read
> > > > of MII_BMSR likely to return 0xffff, since the register does not
> > > > exist? If so, genphy_aneg_done() is likely to always return
> > > > BMSR_ANEGCOMPLETE.
> > > 
> > > Don't forget that the read will fail, so phy_read() will return a
> > > negative number.
> > 
> > By fail, you mean return something like -EIO or -ETIMEOUT? Is this
> > guaranteed in the code somewhere? This particular Marvell PHY only
> > does c45. But i could imagine some other PHYs answering a c22 request
> > with 0xffff.
> 
> Yes, C45 allows the PHYs to answer C22 as well, but then they have to
> implement the C22 register set.  Such a PHY would be out of spec,
> especially as what you're suggesting is that it answers C22 cycles
> and fails to implement MII_BMSR.  I also think that there's a comment
> in the 802.3 specs that says that unimplemented registers are to
> return zero, not 0xffff.

Checking 802.3-2015, in "22.2.4 Management functions", the first
sentence requires all PHYs that respond to Clause 22 cycles to
implement BMCR and BMSR.  However, my statement about unimplemented
registers returning zero seems to be a C45 thing, not a C22 thing,
according to the C22 PICS and "45.2 MDIO Interface Registers"

However, digging a bit further, "22.2.4.2.10 Auto-Negotiation complete"
states that bit 5 shall be zero if aneg has not completed or if aneg is
unimplemented.

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-01 16:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-01 10:23 [PATCH 0/5] Add phylib support for MV88X3310 10G phy Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-06-01 10:26 ` [PATCH 1/5] net: phy: add 802.3 clause 45 support to phylib Russell King
2017-06-01 12:28   ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-01 17:15   ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-02 12:39     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-06-01 10:26 ` [PATCH 2/5] net: phy: hook up clause 45 autonegotiation restart Russell King
2017-06-01 12:23   ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-01 12:51     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-06-01 13:05       ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-01 13:09         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-06-01 13:19           ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-01 15:47             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-06-01 16:24               ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2017-06-01 17:16                 ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-02 12:43                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-06-02 13:46                     ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-02 14:04                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-06-01 10:26 ` [PATCH 3/5] net: phy: split out 10G genphy support Russell King
2017-06-01 12:29   ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-01 17:17   ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-01 10:26 ` [PATCH 4/5] net: phy: add XAUI and 10GBASE-KR PHY connection types Russell King
     [not found]   ` <E1dGNJX-00043v-3M-eh5Bv4kxaXIk46pC+1QYvQNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-01 12:30     ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-01 16:56   ` Florian Fainelli
     [not found]     ` <fb1a81e0-b5b9-80e4-7852-cc65a574b9e9-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-01 17:32       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-06-01 10:26 ` [PATCH 5/5] net: phy: add Marvell Alaska X 88X3310 10Gigabit PHY support Russell King
2017-06-01 12:51   ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-01 13:06     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-06-01 17:28   ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-01 17:57     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-06-01 16:07 ` [PATCH 0/5] Add phylib support for MV88X3310 10G phy David Miller
     [not found]   ` <20170601.120736.670167741447008364.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-01 16:54     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found] ` <20170601102327.GF27796-l+eeeJia6m9URfEZ8mYm6t73F7V6hmMc@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-05 11:22   ` [PATCH v2 0/6] " Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-06-05 11:22     ` [PATCH 1/6] net: phy: add 802.3 clause 45 support to phylib Russell King
2017-06-05 16:25       ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-05 11:22     ` [PATCH 2/6] net: phy: avoid genphy_aneg_done() for PHYs without clause 22 support Russell King
2017-06-05 11:58       ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-05 16:29       ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-05 11:23     ` [PATCH 3/6] net: phy: hook up clause 45 autonegotiation restart Russell King
2017-06-05 11:59       ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-05 16:30       ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-05 11:23     ` [PATCH 4/6] net: phy: split out 10G genphy support Russell King
2017-06-05 11:23     ` [PATCH 5/6] net: phy: add XAUI and 10GBASE-KR PHY connection types Russell King
     [not found]       ` <E1dHq6I-0005XE-VR-eh5Bv4kxaXIk46pC+1QYvQNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-05 12:00         ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-05 16:24       ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-05 11:23     ` [PATCH 6/6] net: phy: add Marvell Alaska X 88X3310 10Gigabit PHY support Russell King
2017-06-05 18:20       ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-05 18:21       ` Florian Fainelli
2017-06-05 18:21       ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-05 22:10         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]     ` <20170605112203.GA10680-l+eeeJia6m9URfEZ8mYm6t73F7V6hmMc@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-05 21:53       ` [PATCH v2 0/6] Add phylib support for MV88X3310 10G phy David Miller

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