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From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux-I+IVW8TIWO2tmTQ+vhA3Yw@public.gmane.org>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Alexandre Belloni
	<alexandre.belloni-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
	Benjamin Gaignard
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	Baruch Siach <baruch-NswTu9S1W3P6gbPvEgmw2w@public.gmane.org>,
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	Linus Walleij
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	Thierry Reding
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	Pavel Machek <pavel-+ZI9xUNit7I@public.gmane.org>,
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	Jonathan Hunter
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	Chen-Yu Tsai <wens-jdAy2FN1RRM@public.gmane.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Sylvain Lemieux
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	Sebastian Hesselbarth
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	Len Brown <len.brown-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
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	<linaro-kernel-cunTk1MwBs8s++Sfvej+rw@public.gmane.org>,
	Jason Cooper <jason-NLaQJdtUoK4Be96aLqz0jA@public.gmane.org>,
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/51] rtc: stop using rtc deprecated functions
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 23:38:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170620223859.GO4902@n2100.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1706202343120.2157@nanos>

On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 12:00:30AM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> Yes, but there are still quite some issues to solve there:
> 
>      1) How do you tell the system that it should apply the offset in the
>      	first place, i.e at boot time before NTP or any other mechanism can
>      	correct it?
> 
>      2) Deal with creative vendors who have their own idea about the 'start
>      	of the epoch'
> 	
>      3) Add the information of wraparound time to the rtc device which
>      	needs to be filled in for each device. That way the rtc_***
>      	accessor functions can deal with them whether they wrap in 2038 or
>      	2100 or whatever.
> 
> #3 is the simplest problem of them :)	

Well, if there's additional non-volatile storage, you can store
additional information in there, but you still need the RTC
subsystem to be aware that the hardware is only 32-bit capable.

You'd also still need something along the lines I detailed
(redefining what dates the past 32-bit values indicate) to cope
with the RTC being set backwards after the machine thinks (possibly
incorrectly) that the date has jumped forwards.

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-20 22:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-20 21:35 [PATCH 00/51] rtc: stop using rtc deprecated functions Alexandre Belloni
     [not found] ` <20170620213507.urobmtg34vzubrdq-m++hUPXGwpdeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-20 22:00   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-20 22:38     ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2017-06-21  7:51     ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-21  8:39       ` Alexandre Belloni
     [not found]         ` <20170621083907.y3gadsmsoufa5niv-m++hUPXGwpdeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-21  6:34           ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-21 12:35             ` Alexandre Belloni
     [not found]               ` <20170621123535.b5fvwlydfhnhuqll-m++hUPXGwpdeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-21 18:08                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-21  9:19           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]             ` <20170621091948.GP4902-l+eeeJia6m9URfEZ8mYm6t73F7V6hmMc@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-21  9:41               ` Alexandre Belloni
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-06-20  9:35 Benjamin Gaignard
     [not found] ` <1497951359-13334-1-git-send-email-benjamin.gaignard-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-20 10:03   ` Alexandre Belloni
     [not found]     ` <20170620100348.zh4ygvjjgnhxvmvl-m++hUPXGwpdeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-20 10:07       ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-06-20 12:10       ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-20 12:24         ` Alexandre Belloni
     [not found]           ` <20170620122400.sm7qqvwyj6cuzarw-m++hUPXGwpdeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-20 13:26             ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-20 13:37               ` Steve Twiss
     [not found]                 ` <6ED8E3B22081A4459DAC7699F3695FB7018CD96FCD-68WUHU125fLzLL1Oxlh9IgLouzNaz+3S@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-20 13:44                   ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-20 13:48                     ` Alexandre Belloni
     [not found]                       ` <20170620134827.ubvzhh25klaotupv-m++hUPXGwpdeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-20 15:07                         ` Benjamin Gaignard
     [not found]                           ` <CA+M3ks68+z6nDtYM8CDpso7SxjB6Nt5E=rOc1yxx=kDz6PUeVQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-20 21:15                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                               ` <20170620211536.GM4902-l+eeeJia6m9URfEZ8mYm6t73F7V6hmMc@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-21  9:26                                 ` David Laight
     [not found]                                   ` <063D6719AE5E284EB5DD2968C1650D6DD00278C0-VkEWCZq2GCInGFn1LkZF6NBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-21  9:35                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-06-20 22:08                             ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-21  9:14                               ` Benjamin Gaignard

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