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Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/51] rtc: stop using rtc deprecated functions
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 20:08:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170621180847.GA24175@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170621123535.b5fvwlydfhnhuqll-m++hUPXGwpdeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
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Hi!
> > > Or not, having an RTC set in the past is actually quite common. I'd find
> > > it weird to have a new device boot and be set to a date in the future.
> >
> > ...but still better than board stuck in the past, no?
> >
> > > Also note that the threshold or offset thing may seem like a good idea
> > > but fails with many RTCs because of how they handle leap years.
> >
> > Well, you can still convert time from rtc to unix time, then do adjustment
> > there.
> >
>
> You can only if your machine is running when that happens. If that is
> not the case, then you lost and your time is not correct anymore.
I don't see why that should be a case... as long as you know what RTC
does in event of overflow, and it is not something completely crazy.
> > Anyway, I guess it would be cool for rtc drivers to annotate what limits
> > underlying storage has to the common code, so that we can do fixups once
> > per class, not once per driver.
>
> Yes, I'm in the middle of the whole rework that allows that.
>
> I don't understand the sudden urgency of fixing that and the amount of
> bikeshedding, seeing that the closest cutoff date is actually 31st of
> december 2069 in the rtc subsystem and that anyway the current 32bit
> userspace will explode in february 2038.
>
> My plan from the beginning was to have something for the next stable. I
> know nobody can read my mind but again, I don't think there is currently
> any urgency to change anything.
Yes, mind reading is a problem. I can only read minds of ferungulates,
and only if they are physicaly near me :-).
Best regards,
Pavel
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Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-06-20 21:35 [PATCH 00/51] rtc: stop using rtc deprecated functions Alexandre Belloni
[not found] ` <20170620213507.urobmtg34vzubrdq-m++hUPXGwpdeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-20 22:00 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-06-20 22:38 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-06-21 7:51 ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-21 8:39 ` Alexandre Belloni
[not found] ` <20170621083907.y3gadsmsoufa5niv-m++hUPXGwpdeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-21 6:34 ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-21 12:35 ` Alexandre Belloni
[not found] ` <20170621123535.b5fvwlydfhnhuqll-m++hUPXGwpdeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-21 18:08 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2017-06-21 9:19 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <20170621091948.GP4902-l+eeeJia6m9URfEZ8mYm6t73F7V6hmMc@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-21 9:41 ` Alexandre Belloni
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2017-06-20 9:35 Benjamin Gaignard
[not found] ` <1497951359-13334-1-git-send-email-benjamin.gaignard-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-20 10:03 ` Alexandre Belloni
[not found] ` <20170620100348.zh4ygvjjgnhxvmvl-m++hUPXGwpdeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-20 10:07 ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-06-20 12:10 ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-20 12:24 ` Alexandre Belloni
[not found] ` <20170620122400.sm7qqvwyj6cuzarw-m++hUPXGwpdeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-20 13:26 ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-20 13:37 ` Steve Twiss
[not found] ` <6ED8E3B22081A4459DAC7699F3695FB7018CD96FCD-68WUHU125fLzLL1Oxlh9IgLouzNaz+3S@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-20 13:44 ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-20 13:48 ` Alexandre Belloni
[not found] ` <20170620134827.ubvzhh25klaotupv-m++hUPXGwpdeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-20 15:07 ` Benjamin Gaignard
[not found] ` <CA+M3ks68+z6nDtYM8CDpso7SxjB6Nt5E=rOc1yxx=kDz6PUeVQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-20 21:15 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <20170620211536.GM4902-l+eeeJia6m9URfEZ8mYm6t73F7V6hmMc@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-21 9:26 ` David Laight
[not found] ` <063D6719AE5E284EB5DD2968C1650D6DD00278C0-VkEWCZq2GCInGFn1LkZF6NBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-21 9:35 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-06-20 22:08 ` Pavel Machek
2017-06-21 9:14 ` Benjamin Gaignard
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