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From: Jakub Kicinski <kubakici@wp.pl>
To: Casey Leedom <leedom@chelsio.com>
Cc: Dustin Byford <dustin@cumulusnetworks.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Roopa Prabhu <roopa@cumulusnetworks.com>,
	"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"linville@tuxdriver.com" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"vidya.chowdary@gmail.com" <vidya.chowdary@gmail.com>,
	"olson@cumulusnetworks.com" <olson@cumulusnetworks.com>,
	Manoj Malviya <manojmalviya@chelsio.com>,
	Santosh Rastapur <santosh@chelsio.com>,
	"yuval.mintz@qlogic.com" <yuval.mintz@qlogic.com>,
	"odedw@mellanox.com" <odedw@mellanox.com>,
	"ariela@mellanox.com" <ariela@mellanox.com>,
	"galp@mellanox.com" <galp@mellanox.com>,
	"jeffrey.t.kirsher@intel.com" <jeffrey.t.kirsher@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 1/3] net: ethtool: add support for forward error correction modes
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 12:02:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170706120214.6076be46@cakuba.netronome.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <MWHPR12MB1600E8A9A46A5BDF57E8B324C8D50@MWHPR12MB1600.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

On Thu, 6 Jul 2017 18:53:42 +0000, Casey Leedom wrote:
> However, the first question which pops up is: what happens if a user
> explicitly selects a particular FEC for from the set offered by the
> current Transceiver Module, and then swap out Transceiver Modules to
> one which doesn't support that FEC?  Does the OS/Driver/Firmware
> "forget" the user's FEC setting?  Does it respect it and potentially
> not get a link established?  Do we "temporarily" put the user's FEC
> setting aside?  Or do we have FEC settings per-Transceiver Module
> Type?  Each choice has downsides in terms of "expected behavior" and
> the complexity of the abstraction model offered to the user.
> 
> In our discussions of the above, we decided that we should err in the
> direction of the absolutely simplest abstraction model, even when
> that might result in a failure to establish a link.  Our feeling was
> that doing anything else would result in endless user confusion.
> Basically, if it takes longer than a simple paragraph to explain,
> you're probably doing the wrong thing.  So, we decided that if a user
> sets up a particular FEC setting, we keep that regardless of conflict
> with different Transceiver Modules.  (But flag such issues in the
> System Log in order to try to give the user a chance to understand
> what the new cable they plugged in wasn't working.)

IMHO if something gets replugged all the settings should be reset.
I feel that it's not entirely unlike replugging a USB adapter.  Perhaps
we should introduce some (devlink) notifications for SFP module events
so userspace can apply whatever static user config it has?

  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-06 19:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-24 19:19 [PATCH net-next 0/3] ethtool: support for forward error correction mode setting on a link Roopa Prabhu
2017-06-24 19:19 ` [PATCH net-next 1/3] net: ethtool: add support for forward error correction modes Roopa Prabhu
2017-06-25 13:38   ` Gal Pressman
2017-06-28  5:46     ` Dustin Byford
2017-06-29 15:49       ` Gal Pressman
2017-06-27 10:22   ` Jakub Kicinski
2017-06-28  6:27     ` Dustin Byford
2017-06-28  6:41       ` Jakub Kicinski
2017-06-28 13:41     ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-28 21:47       ` Dustin Byford
2017-06-29  1:00         ` Jakub Kicinski
2017-07-06 18:53           ` Casey Leedom
2017-07-06 19:02             ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2017-07-06 21:06               ` Wyborny, Carolyn
2017-07-06 21:53               ` Casey Leedom
2017-07-06 22:16                 ` Wyborny, Carolyn
2017-07-06 22:36                   ` Andrew Lunn
2017-07-06 22:37                   ` Casey Leedom
2017-07-06 22:33                 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-07-06 22:47                   ` Casey Leedom
2017-07-06 23:15                     ` Andrew Lunn
2017-07-06 23:27                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2017-07-06 23:39                       ` Casey Leedom
2017-07-07  0:56                         ` Andrew Lunn
2017-07-07  1:38                           ` Dave Olson
2017-07-06 22:43                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2017-07-06 22:57                   ` Casey Leedom
2017-06-29 13:30         ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-24 19:19 ` [PATCH net-next 2/3] cxgb4: core hardware/firmware support for Forward Error Correction on a link Roopa Prabhu
2017-06-27  3:16   ` David Miller
2017-06-24 19:19 ` [PATCH net-next 3/3] cxgb4: ethtool forward error correction management support Roopa Prabhu
2017-06-24 21:47 ` [PATCH net-next 0/3] ethtool: support for forward error correction mode setting on a link Andrew Lunn

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