From: Jakub Kicinski <kubakici@wp.pl>
To: Casey Leedom <leedom@chelsio.com>
Cc: Dustin Byford <dustin@cumulusnetworks.com>,
Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
Roopa Prabhu <roopa@cumulusnetworks.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 1/3] net: ethtool: add support for forward error correction modes
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 12:02:14 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170706120214.6076be46@cakuba.netronome.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <MWHPR12MB1600E8A9A46A5BDF57E8B324C8D50@MWHPR12MB1600.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>
On Thu, 6 Jul 2017 18:53:42 +0000, Casey Leedom wrote:
> However, the first question which pops up is: what happens if a user
> explicitly selects a particular FEC for from the set offered by the
> current Transceiver Module, and then swap out Transceiver Modules to
> one which doesn't support that FEC? Does the OS/Driver/Firmware
> "forget" the user's FEC setting? Does it respect it and potentially
> not get a link established? Do we "temporarily" put the user's FEC
> setting aside? Or do we have FEC settings per-Transceiver Module
> Type? Each choice has downsides in terms of "expected behavior" and
> the complexity of the abstraction model offered to the user.
>
> In our discussions of the above, we decided that we should err in the
> direction of the absolutely simplest abstraction model, even when
> that might result in a failure to establish a link. Our feeling was
> that doing anything else would result in endless user confusion.
> Basically, if it takes longer than a simple paragraph to explain,
> you're probably doing the wrong thing. So, we decided that if a user
> sets up a particular FEC setting, we keep that regardless of conflict
> with different Transceiver Modules. (But flag such issues in the
> System Log in order to try to give the user a chance to understand
> what the new cable they plugged in wasn't working.)
IMHO if something gets replugged all the settings should be reset.
I feel that it's not entirely unlike replugging a USB adapter. Perhaps
we should introduce some (devlink) notifications for SFP module events
so userspace can apply whatever static user config it has?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-07-06 19:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-06-24 19:19 [PATCH net-next 0/3] ethtool: support for forward error correction mode setting on a link Roopa Prabhu
2017-06-24 19:19 ` [PATCH net-next 1/3] net: ethtool: add support for forward error correction modes Roopa Prabhu
2017-06-25 13:38 ` Gal Pressman
2017-06-28 5:46 ` Dustin Byford
2017-06-29 15:49 ` Gal Pressman
2017-06-27 10:22 ` Jakub Kicinski
2017-06-28 6:27 ` Dustin Byford
2017-06-28 6:41 ` Jakub Kicinski
2017-06-28 13:41 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-28 21:47 ` Dustin Byford
2017-06-29 1:00 ` Jakub Kicinski
2017-07-06 18:53 ` Casey Leedom
2017-07-06 19:02 ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2017-07-06 21:06 ` Wyborny, Carolyn
2017-07-06 21:53 ` Casey Leedom
2017-07-06 22:16 ` Wyborny, Carolyn
2017-07-06 22:36 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-07-06 22:37 ` Casey Leedom
2017-07-06 22:33 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-07-06 22:47 ` Casey Leedom
2017-07-06 23:15 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-07-06 23:27 ` Jakub Kicinski
2017-07-06 23:39 ` Casey Leedom
2017-07-07 0:56 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-07-07 1:38 ` Dave Olson
2017-07-06 22:43 ` Jakub Kicinski
2017-07-06 22:57 ` Casey Leedom
2017-06-29 13:30 ` Andrew Lunn
2017-06-24 19:19 ` [PATCH net-next 2/3] cxgb4: core hardware/firmware support for Forward Error Correction on a link Roopa Prabhu
2017-06-27 3:16 ` David Miller
2017-06-24 19:19 ` [PATCH net-next 3/3] cxgb4: ethtool forward error correction management support Roopa Prabhu
2017-06-24 21:47 ` [PATCH net-next 0/3] ethtool: support for forward error correction mode setting on a link Andrew Lunn
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