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From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: fw@strlen.de
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, ycheng@google.com, ncardwell@google.com,
	edumazet@google.com, soheil@google.com, weiwan@google.com,
	brakmo@fb.com
Subject: Re: [RFC net-next 0/6] tcp: remove prequeue and header prediction
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2017 15:22:44 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170729.152244.43564304647234406.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170727233117.29695-1-fw@strlen.de>

From: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2017 01:31:11 +0200

> This RFC removes tcp prequeueing and header prediction support.
> 
> After a hallway discussion with Eric Dumazet some
> maybe-not-so-useful-anymore TCP stack features came up, HP and
> Prequeue among these.
> 
> So this RFC proposes to axe both.
> 
> In brief, TCP prequeue assumes a single-process-blocking-read
> design, which is not that common anymore, and the most frequently
> used high-performance networking program that does this is netperf :)
> 
> With more commong (e)poll designs, prequeue doesn't work.
> 
> The idea behind prequeueing isn't so bad in itself; it moves
> part of tcp processing -- including ack processing (including
> retransmit queue processing) into process context.
> However, removing it would not just avoid some code, for most
> programs it elimiates dead code.
> 
> As processing then always occurs in BH context, it would allow us
> to experiment e.g. with bulk-freeing of skb heads when a packet acks
> data on the retransmit queue.
> 
> Header prediction is also less useful nowadays.
> For packet trains, GRO will aggregate packets so we do not get
> a per-packet benefit.
> Header prediction will also break down with light packet loss due to SACK.
> 
> So, In short: What do others think?

I have no objections to any of this. :)

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-07-29 22:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-27 23:31 [RFC net-next 0/6] tcp: remove prequeue and header prediction Florian Westphal
2017-07-27 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 1/6] tcp: remove prequeue support Florian Westphal
2017-07-27 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 2/6] tcp: reindent two spots after prequeue removal Florian Westphal
2017-07-27 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 3/6] tcp: remove low_latency sysctl Florian Westphal
2017-07-27 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 4/6] tcp: remove header prediction Florian Westphal
2017-07-27 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 5/6] tcp: remove CA_ACK_SLOWPATH Florian Westphal
2017-07-27 23:31 ` [RFC PATCH net-next 6/6] tcp: remove unused mib counters Florian Westphal
2017-07-28 19:19 ` [RFC net-next 0/6] tcp: remove prequeue and header prediction Yuchung Cheng
2017-07-29 22:22 ` David Miller [this message]
2017-07-30  2:25 ` Neal Cardwell
2017-07-31 20:04   ` Yuchung Cheng
2017-07-31 20:22     ` Eric Dumazet
2017-07-31 21:38       ` David Miller

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