From: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: fw@strlen.de, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 0/7] rtnetlink: allow to run selected handlers without rtnl
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 10:19:28 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170809081928.GA26899@breakpoint.cc> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170808.213329.522107918983433411.davem@davemloft.net>
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:
> From: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
> Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 18:02:29 +0200
>
> > Unfortunately RTNL mutex is a performance issue, e.g. a cpu adding
> > an ip address prevents other cpus from seemingly unrelated tasks
> > such as dumping tc classifiers.
>
> It is related if somehow the TC entries refer to IP addresses.
>
> Someone could create something like that.
Actually I am not following. Why would read-only accesses need rtnl
locking wrt. any other operation (provided of course rtnl lock doesn't
protect the data structure)?
> > Initial no-rtnl spots are ip6 fib add/del and netns new/getid.
>
> I could see the netns stuff being ok, but IPv6 route add/del I'm
> not so sure of.
[..]
> There really is a hierachy of these dependencies. Device state, up
> to neighbour table state, up to protocol address state, up to routes,
> up to FIB tables, etc. etc. etc.
>
> I'd really like to make this operate more freely, but this is an
> extremely delicate area which has been bottled up like this for
> two decades so good luck :-)
Would you accept a v2 if i don't touch ipv6 routes for the time being?
I would then audit those again. At the very least inet6_rtm_getroute should
be able to work without rtnl lock (i.e., use a different lock if
needed to protect vs. concurrent modifications).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-08-09 8:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-08-08 16:02 [PATCH net-next 0/7] rtnetlink: allow to run selected handlers without rtnl Florian Westphal
2017-08-08 16:02 ` [PATCH net-next 1/7] rtnetlink: call rtnl_calcit directly Florian Westphal
2017-08-08 16:02 ` [PATCH net-next 2/7] rtnetlink: make rtnl_register accept a flags parameter Florian Westphal
2017-08-08 16:02 ` [PATCH net-next 3/7] rtnetlink: add reference counting to prevent module unload while dump is in progress Florian Westphal
2017-08-08 16:02 ` [PATCH net-next 4/7] rtnetlink: small rtnl lock pushdown Florian Westphal
2017-08-08 16:02 ` [PATCH net-next 5/7] rtnetlink: protect handler table with rcu Florian Westphal
2017-08-08 16:02 ` [PATCH net-next 6/7] rtnetlink: add and use RTNL_FLAG_DOIT_UNLOCKED Florian Westphal
2017-08-08 16:02 ` [PATCH net-next 7/7] net: call newid/getid without rtnl mutex held Florian Westphal
2017-08-09 4:33 ` [PATCH net-next 0/7] rtnetlink: allow to run selected handlers without rtnl David Miller
2017-08-09 8:19 ` Florian Westphal [this message]
2017-08-09 16:41 ` David Miller
2017-08-09 16:42 ` David Miller
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