From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: "xdp-newbies@vger.kernel.org" <xdp-newbies@vger.kernel.org>,
"John Fastabend" <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
"Daniel Borkmann" <borkmann@iogearbox.net>,
"Andy Gospodarek" <andy@greyhouse.net>,
"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
"Paweł Staszewski" <pstaszewski@itcare.pl>,
brouer@redhat.com
Subject: Re: XDP redirect measurements, gotchas and tracepoints
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 08:37:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170822083710.47a182a2@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170821223540.atktdricmks26c27@ast-mbp>
On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 15:35:42 -0700
Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 09:25:06PM +0200, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> >
> > Third gotcha(3): You got this far, loaded xdp on both interfaces, and
> > notice now that (with default setup) you can RX with 14Mpps but only
> > TX with 6.9Mpps (and might have 5% idle cycles). I debugged this via
> > perf tracepoint event xdp:xdp_redirect, and found this was due to
> > overrunning the xdp TX ring-queue size.
>
> we should probably fix this somehow.
Gotcha-3 (quoted above) is an interesting problem. At first it looks
like a driver tuning problem. But it is actually an inherent property
of XDP, as there is no-queue or push-back flow control with XDP, there
is no way to handle TX queue overrun.
My proposed solution: I want to provide a facility for userspace to
load another eBPF program (at the tracepoint xdp_redirect), which can
"see" the issue occurring. This allows a XDP/BPF developer to
implement their own reaction/mitigation flow-control (e.g. via a map
shared with the XDP program).
> Once tx-ing netdev added to devmap we can enable xdp on it automatically?
I think you are referring to Gotcha-2 here:
Second gotcha(2): you cannot TX out a device, unless it also have a
xdp bpf program attached. (This is an implicit dependency, as the
driver code need to setup XDP resources before it can ndo_xdp_xmit).
Yes, we should work on improving this situation. Auto enabling XDP
when a netdev is added to a devmap is a good solution. Currently this
is tied to loading an XDP bpf_prog. Do you propose loading a dummy
bpf_prog on the netdev? (then we need to handle 1. not replacing
existing bpf_prog, 2. on take-down don't remove "later" loaded
bpf_prog).
--
Best regards,
Jesper Dangaard Brouer
MSc.CS, Principal Kernel Engineer at Red Hat
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/brouer
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-08-22 6:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-08-21 19:25 XDP redirect measurements, gotchas and tracepoints Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-08-21 22:35 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-22 6:37 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer [this message]
2017-08-22 17:09 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-08-22 17:17 ` John Fastabend
2017-08-23 8:56 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-08-22 18:02 ` Michael Chan
2017-08-22 18:17 ` John Fastabend
2017-08-22 18:30 ` Duyck, Alexander H
2017-08-22 20:04 ` Michael Chan
2017-08-23 1:06 ` Alexander Duyck
2017-08-23 6:59 ` Michael Chan
2017-08-23 8:29 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-08-25 3:36 ` Michael Chan
2017-08-25 12:45 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-08-25 15:10 ` John Fastabend
2017-08-25 15:28 ` Michael Chan
2017-08-28 16:02 ` Andy Gospodarek
2017-08-28 16:11 ` Alexander Duyck
2017-08-29 13:26 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-08-29 16:23 ` Alexander Duyck
2017-08-29 19:02 ` Andy Gospodarek
2017-08-29 19:52 ` Alexander Duyck
2017-08-28 16:14 ` John Fastabend
2017-08-28 19:39 ` Andy Gospodarek
2017-08-23 14:51 ` Alexander Duyck
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