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From: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
To: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
Cc: Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, jhs@mojatatu.com
Subject: Re: [Patch net-next v2 3/4] net_sched: remove tc class reference counting
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2017 11:36:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170825093645.GD2023@nanopsycho> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170825091850.GI15739@breakpoint.cc>

Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 11:18:50AM CEST, fw@strlen.de wrote:
>Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us> wrote:
>> Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 01:51:29AM CEST, xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com wrote:
>> >For TC classes, their ->get() and ->put() are always paired, and the
>> >reference counting is completely useless, because:
>> >
>> >1) For class modification and dumping paths, we already hold RTNL lock,
>> >   so all of these ->get(),->change(),->put() are atomic.
>> 
>> There is ongoing initiative by Florian to avoid taking RTNL for some
>> rtnetlink calls. I think that for dumping it could be done in tc as well.
>> Don't we need the refcnt then?
>
>Dumping is a problem at this time because several places depend on RTNL
>to ensure we get a consistent state, even "simple" functions like
>rtnl_fill_ifinfo, see e.g.  2907c35ff64708065e5a7fd54e8ded8263eb3074
>(net: hold rtnl again in dump callbacks).
>
>So for these places we already need some other way (e.g. seqlock)
>to ensure we don't put garbage in netlink skb.
>
>At this time I think that it is better if Congs patches go in
>(Unless there are other problems of course) as they simplify
>things quite a bit, and I am not sure that we need refcount.
>
>It might be enough to use rcu and detect when the class we just read
>from might have been in inconsistent state (so we can retry).
>
>Does that make sense to you?

It does. Thanks!

  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-25  9:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-24 23:51 [Patch net-next v2 0/4] net_sched: clean up tc classes and u32 filter Cong Wang
2017-08-24 23:51 ` [Patch net-next v2 1/4] net_sched: get rid of more forward declarations Cong Wang
2017-08-25  8:45   ` Jiri Pirko
2017-08-25 11:51   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2017-08-24 23:51 ` [Patch net-next v2 2/4] net_sched: introduce tclass_del_notify() Cong Wang
2017-08-25  8:54   ` Jiri Pirko
2017-08-25 11:51   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2017-08-24 23:51 ` [Patch net-next v2 3/4] net_sched: remove tc class reference counting Cong Wang
2017-08-25  9:00   ` Jiri Pirko
2017-08-25  9:18     ` Florian Westphal
2017-08-25  9:36       ` Jiri Pirko [this message]
2017-08-25  9:41   ` Jiri Pirko
2017-08-25 12:28   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2017-08-24 23:51 ` [Patch net-next v2 4/4] net_sched: kill u32_node pointer in Qdisc Cong Wang
2017-08-25  9:06   ` Jiri Pirko
2017-08-25 12:29   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2017-08-25 12:37     ` Jiri Pirko
2017-08-26  0:20 ` [Patch net-next v2 0/4] net_sched: clean up tc classes and u32 filter David Miller

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