From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
To: Michael Witten <mfwitten@gmail.com>
Cc: "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Alexey Kuznetsov <kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru>,
Hideaki YOSHIFUJI <yoshfuji@linux-ipv6.org>,
Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net 3/3] net: skb_queue_purge(): lock/unlock the queue only once
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2017 07:55:39 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171002075539.113a1eaa@xeon-e3> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <057dd5367241468691b2b9adbc38a3ba-mfwitten@gmail.com>
On Mon, 02 Oct 2017 05:15:32 -0000
Michael Witten <mfwitten@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Oct 2017 17:59:09 -0700, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 01 Oct 2017 22:19:20 -0000 Michael Witten wrote:
> >
> >> + spin_lock_irqsave(&q->lock, flags);
> >> + skb = q->next;
> >> + __skb_queue_head_init(q);
> >> + spin_unlock_irqrestore(&q->lock, flags);
> >
> > Other code manipulating lists uses splice operation and
> > a sk_buff_head temporary on the stack. That would be easier
> > to understand.
> >
> > struct sk_buf_head head;
> >
> > __skb_queue_head_init(&head);
> > spin_lock_irqsave(&q->lock, flags);
> > skb_queue_splice_init(q, &head);
> > spin_unlock_irqrestore(&q->lock, flags);
> >
> >
> >> + while (skb != head) {
> >> + next = skb->next;
> >> kfree_skb(skb);
> >> + skb = next;
> >> + }
> >
> > It would be cleaner if you could use
> > skb_queue_walk_safe rather than open coding the loop.
> >
> > skb_queue_walk_safe(&head, skb, tmp)
> > kfree_skb(skb);
>
> I appreciate abstraction as much as anybody, but I do not believe
> that such abstractions would actually be an improvement here.
>
> * Splice-initing seems more like an idiom than an abstraction;
> at first blush, it wouldn't be clear to me what the intention
> is.
>
> * Such abstractions are fairly unnecessary.
>
> * The function as written is already so short as to be
> easily digested.
>
> * More to the point, this function is not some generic,
> higher-level algorithm that just happens to employ the
> socket buffer interface; rather, it is a function that
> implements part of that very interface, and may thus
> twiddle the intimate bits of these data structures
> without being accused of abusing a leaky abstraction.
>
> * Such abstractions add overhead, if only conceptually. In this
> case, a temporary socket buffer queue allocates *3* unnecessary
> struct members, including a whole `spinlock_t' member:
>
> prev
> qlen
> lock
>
> It's possible that the compiler will be smart enough to leave
> those out, but I have my suspicions that it won't, not only
> given that the interface contract requires that the temporary
> socket buffer queue be properly initialized before use, but
> also because splicing into the temporary will manipulate its
> `qlen'. Yet, why worry whether optimization happens? The whole
> issue can simply be avoided by exploiting the intimate details
> that are already philosophically available to us.
>
> Similarly, the function `skb_queue_walk_safe' is nice, but it
> loses value both because a temporary queue loses value (as just
> described), and because it ignores the fact that legitimate
> access to the internals of these data structures allows for
> setting up the requested loop in advance; that is to say, the
> two parts of the function that we are now debating can be woven
> together more tightly than `skb_queue_walk_safe' allows.
>
> For these reasons, I stand by the way that the patch currently
> implements this function; it does exactly what is desired, no more
> or less.
>
> Sincerely,
> Michael Witten
The point is that there was discussion in the past of replacing
the next/prev as used in skb with more generic code from list.h.
If the abstraction was used, then this code would just work.
The temporary skb_buff_head is on the stack, and any
access to updating those fields like qlen are in CPU cache
and therefore have very little impact on any peformance.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-10-02 14:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-09-08 5:05 [PATCH 0/3] net: TCP/IP: A few minor cleanups Michael Witten
2017-09-08 5:05 ` [PATCH 1/3] net: __sock_cmsg_send(): Remove unused parameter `msg' Michael Witten
2017-09-08 5:06 ` [PATCH 2/3] net: inet_recvmsg(): Remove unnecessary bitwise operation Michael Witten
2017-09-08 5:06 ` [PATCH 3/3] net: skb_queue_purge(): lock/unlock the list only once Michael Witten
2017-09-08 16:01 ` Eric Dumazet
2017-09-08 16:51 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-09-09 5:50 ` [PATCH v1 3/3] net: skb_queue_purge(): lock/unlock the queue " Michael Witten
2017-09-09 16:52 ` Eric Dumazet
2017-10-01 22:19 ` [PATCH net " Michael Witten
2017-10-02 0:59 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-10-02 5:15 ` Michael Witten
2017-10-02 14:55 ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2017-10-01 22:19 ` [PATCH net 0/3] net: TCP/IP: A few minor cleanups Michael Witten
2017-10-01 22:19 ` [PATCH net 1/3] net: __sock_cmsg_send(): Remove unused parameter `msg' Michael Witten
2017-10-01 22:19 ` [PATCH net 2/3] net: inet_recvmsg(): Remove unnecessary bitwise operation Michael Witten
2018-02-06 0:54 ` Please apply these tiny, 4-month-old patches Michael Witten
2018-02-06 1:12 ` David Miller
2018-02-06 1:31 ` Michael Witten
2018-02-06 1:42 ` Andrew Lunn
2018-02-06 2:19 ` Michael Witten
2018-02-06 12:58 ` Andrew Lunn
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