From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>, netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: problem with rtnetlink 'reference' count
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2017 18:20:06 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171023162006.GH3165@worktop.lehotels.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171023153200.GA12422@breakpoint.cc>
On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 05:32:00PM +0200, Florian Westphal wrote:
> > 1) it not in fact a refcount, so using refcount_t is silly
>
> Your suggestion is...?
Normal atomic_t
> > 2) there is a distinct lack of memory barriers, so we can easily
> > observe the decrement while the msg_handler is still in progress.
>
> I guess you mean it needs:
>
> + smp_mb__before_atomic();
> refcount_dec(&rtnl_msg_handlers_ref[family]);
> ?
Yes, but also:
atomic_inc();
smp_mb__after_atomic();
To avoid the problem of te inc being observed late.
> However, this refcount_dec is misplaced anyway as it would need
> to occur from nlcb->done() (the handler function gets stored in socket for
> use by next recvmsg), so this change is indeed not helpful at all.
>
> > 3) waiting with a schedule()/yield() loop is complete crap and subject
> > life-locks, imagine doing that rtnl_unregister_all() from a RT task.
> Alternatively we can of course sleep instead of schedule() but that
> doesn't appear too appealing either (albeit it is a lot less intrusive).
That is much better than a yield loop.
> Any other idea?
This rtnetlink_rcv_msg() is called from softirq-context, right? Also,
all that stuff happens with rcu_read_lock() held.
So why isn't that synchronize_net() call sufficient? You first clear
rtnl_msg_handlers[protocol], and then you do synchronize_net() which
will wait for all concurrent softirq handlers to complete. Which, if
rtnetlink_rcv_msg() is called from softir, guarantees nobody still uses
it.
Also, if that is all softirq, you should maybe use rcu_read_lock_bh(),
alternatively you should use synchronize_rcu(), as is its a bit
inconsistent.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-10-23 16:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-10-23 14:25 problem with rtnetlink 'reference' count Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-23 15:32 ` Florian Westphal
2017-10-23 16:20 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2017-10-23 16:37 ` Florian Westphal
2017-10-23 18:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-23 19:37 ` Florian Westphal
2017-10-24 8:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-10-24 9:10 ` Florian Westphal
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