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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"Tobin C. Harding" <me@tobin.cc>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>,
	Network Development <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com"
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	"Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
	"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Tycho Andersen <tycho@docker.com>,
	"Roberts, William C" <william.c.roberts@intel.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Jordan Glover <Golden_Miller83@protonmail.ch>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>, Ian Campbell <ijc@hellion.org.uk>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <serg
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] scripts: add leaking_addresses.pl
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2017 17:44:13 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171107174413.00e51a3f@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFw-GgR7DmXsD1dmYWbxuVhg+u0oKwuwNEM4RnuVyA0NDw@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 13:44:01 -0800
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> > Looking other places that stand out, it seems like
> > /proc/lockdep_chains and /proc/lockdep (CONFIG_LOCKDEP=y) has a ton of
> > %p usage. It's unclear to me if a hash is sufficient for meaningful
> > debugging there?  
> 
> Maybe not, but that is also _so_ esoteric that I suspect the right fix
> is to just make it root-only readable.

Also note, I don't believe anyone should be running a LOCKDEP
configured kernel in a production (secured) environment. As it adds
quite a bit of overhead. It's something you run on test environments to
make sure it doesn't detect any possible deadlocks.

> 
> I've never used it, we should check with people who have. I get the
> feeling that this is purely for PeterZ debugging.

I've used it. But then again, I also debug lockdep ;-)

> 
> The very first commit that introduced that code actually has a
> 
>     (FIXME: should go into debugfs)
> 
> so I suspect it never should have been user-readable to begin with. I
> guess it makes some things easier, but it really is *very* different
> from things like profiling.

Want me to whip up a patch to move the file?

-- Steve

> 
> Profiling you often *cannot* do as root - some things you profile
> really shouldn't be run as root, and might even refuse to do so. So
> requiring you to be root just to get a kernel profile is very bad.
> 
> But looking at lockdep stats? Yeah, 'sudo' isn't so big of a deal.
> 
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-11-07 22:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1509945567-11801-1-git-send-email-me@tobin.cc>
2017-11-06 17:27 ` [PATCH v3] scripts: add leaking_addresses.pl Linus Torvalds
2017-11-06 17:41   ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-06 21:15     ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-06 18:25   ` [kernel-hardening] " Pavel Vasilyev
2017-11-06 21:03     ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-07 21:22   ` Kees Cook
2017-11-07 21:44     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-11-07 22:08       ` Kees Cook
2017-11-07 22:44       ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2017-11-08  8:20         ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-08  3:06       ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-08  2:05     ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-08  4:18     ` Tobin C. Harding
2017-11-08  3:24   ` Tobin C. Harding

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