From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: jasowang@redhat.com, willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com,
mkubecek@suse.cz, netdev@vger.kernel.org, vyasevic@redhat.com
Subject: Re: regression: UFO removal breaks kvm live migration
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2017 18:01:22 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171108174633-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171108.203231.310648804772108001.davem@davemloft.net>
On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 08:32:31PM +0900, David Miller wrote:
> From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
> Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2017 17:25:48 +0900
>
> > On 2017年11月08日 17:08, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> >> That won't help in the short term. I'm still reading up to see if
> >> there are
> >> any other options besides reimplement or advertise-but-drop, such as
> >> an implicit trigger that would make the guest renegotiate. It's
> >> unlikely, but
> >> worth a look..
> >
> > Yes, this looks hard. And even if we can manage to do this, it looks
> > an overkill since it will impact all guest after migration.
>
> Like Willem I would much prefer "advertise-but-drop" if it works.
>
> In the long term feature renegotiation triggers are a must.
>
> There is no way for us to remove features otherwise.
Isn't this like most userspace ABI issues? Once you add them it's very hard
to remove them, even with negotiation - too much userspace just does
if (ret)
exit();
> In my opinion this will even make migrations more powerful.
I agree. Not sure how to avoid packet drops when doing this though.
And dropping a ton of TX packets isn't nice at all since
TX packets is what teaches the network about the new location
of the VM.
--
MST
prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-11-08 16:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-11-07 8:02 regression: UFO removal breaks kvm live migration Michal Kubecek
2017-11-08 3:36 ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-11-08 6:26 ` David Miller
2017-11-08 7:49 ` Jason Wang
2017-11-08 8:08 ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-11-08 8:25 ` Jason Wang
2017-11-08 11:32 ` David Miller
2017-11-08 12:53 ` Jason Wang
2017-11-08 12:58 ` David Miller
2017-11-10 5:32 ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-11-10 5:59 ` David Miller
2017-11-17 14:31 ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-11-17 14:48 ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-11-17 23:00 ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-11-08 16:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
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