From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
To: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
Cc: Solio Sarabia <solio.sarabia@intel.com>,
davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
sthemmin@microsoft.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 2/2] veth: propagate bridge GSO to peer
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 12:30:42 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171201123042.4d565c6f@xeon-e3> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <91628267-2e48-a231-7cc2-4830eb95ceef@gmail.com>
On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 19:02:01 -0700
David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/27/17 6:42 PM, Solio Sarabia wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 01:15:02PM -0800, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> >> On Mon, 27 Nov 2017 12:14:19 -0800
> >> Solio Sarabia <solio.sarabia@intel.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 11:07:25PM -0800, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> >>>> On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 20:13:39 -0700
> >>>> David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 11/26/17 11:17 AM, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> >>>>>> This allows veth device in containers to see the GSO maximum
> >>>>>> settings of the actual device being used for output.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> veth devices can be added to a VRF instead of a bridge, and I do not
> >>>>> believe the gso propagation works for L3 master devices.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> From a quick grep, team devices do not appear to handle gso changes either.
> >>>>
> >>>> This code should still work correctly, but no optimization would happen.
> >>>> The gso_max_size of the VRF or team will
> >>>> still be GSO_MAX_SIZE so there would be no change. If VRF or Team ever got smart
> >>>> enough to handle GSO limits, then the algorithm would handle it.
> >>>
> >>> This patch propagates gso value from bridge to its veth endpoints.
> >>> However, since bridge is never aware of the GSO limit from underlying
> >>> interfaces, bridge/veth still have larger GSO size.
> >>>
> >>> In the docker case, bridge is not linked directly to physical or
> >>> synthetic interfaces; it relies on iptables to decide which interface to
> >>> forward packets to.
> >>
> >> So for the docker case, then direct control of GSO values via netlink (ie ip link set)
> >> seems like the better solution.
> >
> > Adding ioctl support for 'ip link set' would work. I'm still concerned
> > how to enforce the upper limit to not exceed that of the lower devices.
> >
> > Consider a system with three NICs, each reporting values in the range
> > [60,000 - 62,780]. Users could set virtual interfaces' gso to 65,536,
> > exceeding the limit, and having the host do sw gso (vms settings must
> > not affect host performance.)
> >
> > Looping through interfaces? With the difference that now it'd be
> > trigger upon user's request, not every time a veth is created (like one
> > previous patch discussed.)
> >
>
> You are concerned about the routed case right? One option is to have VRF
> devices propagate gso sizes to all devices (veth, vlan, etc) enslaved to
> it. VRF devices are Layer 3 master devices so an L3 parallel to a bridge.
See the patch set I posted today which punts the problem to veth setup.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-12-01 20:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-11-26 18:17 [PATCH RFC 0/2] veth, bridge, and GSO maximums Stephen Hemminger
2017-11-26 18:17 ` [PATCH RFC 1/2] br: add notifier for when bridge changes it " Stephen Hemminger
2017-11-26 18:17 ` [PATCH RFC 2/2] veth: propagate bridge GSO to peer Stephen Hemminger
2017-11-27 3:13 ` David Ahern
2017-11-27 7:07 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-11-27 20:14 ` Solio Sarabia
2017-11-27 21:15 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-11-28 1:42 ` Solio Sarabia
2017-11-28 2:02 ` David Ahern
2017-11-30 0:35 ` Solio Sarabia
2017-11-30 17:10 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-11-30 17:26 ` Eric Dumazet
2017-11-30 17:36 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-11-30 17:38 ` David Miller
2017-11-30 17:49 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-11-30 17:59 ` Eric Dumazet
2017-11-30 18:08 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-11-30 18:10 ` Eric Dumazet
2017-12-01 20:30 ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2017-11-30 15:47 ` [PATCH RFC 0/2] veth, bridge, and GSO maximums David Miller
2017-11-30 17:11 ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-11-30 20:50 ` Alexander Duyck
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