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From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kubakici@wp.pl>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Stephen Hemminger <sthemmin@microsoft.com>,
	Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
Subject: Re: [RFC] hv_netvsc: automatically name slave VF network device
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 14:06:59 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171219140659.39f6cc1c@xeon-e3> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171219135529.62800475@cakuba.netronome.com>

On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 13:55:29 -0800
Jakub Kicinski <kubakici@wp.pl> wrote:

> On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 13:29:49 -0800, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > > > biosdevname is dead, gone and wouldn't work on Azure (it dumpster
> > > > dives in /dev/mem).      
> > > 
> > > Hm, I haven't worked on biosdevname myself, but AFAIU it also falls 
> > > back to information from the PCI VPD, which could be populated by 
> > > the hypervisor.    
> > 
> > VPD never had any useful standard are info.
> > The rules used by udev come off sysfs, see:
> >   https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/  
> 
> Yes, the current VPD info looks quite limited, although it is
> extendable.
> 
> > > > I assume you mean the modern application is udev, and it works
> > > > but the name is meaningless because it based of synthetic PCI
> > > > information. The PCI host adapter is simulated for pass through
> > > > devices. Names like enp12s0.
> > > > 
> > > > Since every passthrough VF device on Hyper-V/Azure has a matching
> > > > synthetic network device with same mac address. It is best to
> > > > have the relationship shown in the name.      
> > > 
> > > How about we make the VF drivers expose "vf" as phys_port_name?
> > > Then systemd/udev should glue that onto the name regardless of
> > > how the VF is used.    
> > 
> > One of the goals was not to modify in any way other drivers (like VF).  
> 
> Why?  Do you have out-of-tree drivers you can't change or some such?

This needs to work on enterprise distributions; plus it is not good practice
to introduce random changes into partners like Mellanox drivers.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-19 22:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-19 19:35 [RFC] hv_netvsc: automatically name slave VF network device Stephen Hemminger
2017-12-19 20:32 ` Jakub Kicinski
2017-12-19 20:44   ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-12-19 21:18     ` Jakub Kicinski
2017-12-19 21:29       ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-12-19 21:55         ` Jakub Kicinski
2017-12-19 22:06           ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2017-12-19 22:24             ` Jakub Kicinski
2017-12-19 22:51               ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-12-19 22:44 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2017-12-19 22:50   ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-12-19 23:20     ` Jakub Kicinski
2017-12-19 23:44       ` Stephen Hemminger
2017-12-19 23:53         ` Jakub Kicinski
2017-12-20  6:41           ` Jiri Pirko

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