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From: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@fb.com>
Cc: Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>, <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	<mingo@redhat.com>, <davem@davemloft.net>,
	<netdev@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<ast@kernel.org>, <kernel-team@fb.com>, <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	<linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>, <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	Josef Bacik <jbacik@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 1/5] add infrastructure for tagging functions as error injectable
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 16:13:42 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171220161342.44443047f186b7a62efdfe1a@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7b73cbfa-959f-2efe-8a7c-f9d0b0c2ccaa@fb.com>

On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 18:14:17 -0800
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@fb.com> wrote:

> On 12/18/17 10:29 PM, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
> >>
> >> +#if defined(__KERNEL__) && !defined(__ASSEMBLY__)
> >> +#ifdef CONFIG_BPF_KPROBE_OVERRIDE
> >
> > BTW, CONFIG_BPF_KPROBE_OVERRIDE is also confusable name.
> > Since this feature override a function to just return with
> > some return value (as far as I understand, or would you
> > also plan to modify execution path inside a function?),
> > I think it should be better CONFIG_BPF_FUNCTION_OVERRIDE or
> > CONFIG_BPF_EXECUTION_OVERRIDE.
> 
> I don't think such renaming makes sense.
> The feature is overriding kprobe by changing how kprobe returns.
> It doesn't override BPF_FUNCTION or BPF_EXECUTION.

No, I meant this is BPF's feature which override FUNCTION, so
BPF is a kind of namespace. (Is that only for a function entry
because it can not tweak stackframe at this morment?)

> The kernel enters and exists bpf program as normal.

Yeah, but that bpf program modifies instruction pointer, am I correct?

> 
> > Indeed, BPF is based on kprobes, but it seems you are limiting it
> > with ftrace (function-call trace) (I'm not sure the reason why),
> > so using "kprobes" for this feature seems strange for me.
> 
> do you have an idea how kprobe override can happen when kprobe
> placed in the middle of the function?

For example, if you know a basic block in the function, maybe
you can skip a block or something like that. But nowadays
it is somewhat hard because optimizer mixed it up.

> 
> Please make your suggestion as patches based on top of bpf-next.

bpf-next seems already pick this series. Would you mean I revert it and
write new patch?

Thank you,

> 
> Thanks
> 


-- 
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>

  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-20  7:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-15 19:12 [PATCH v10 0/5] Add the ability to do BPF directed error injection Josef Bacik
2017-12-15 19:12 ` [PATCH v10 1/5] add infrastructure for tagging functions as error injectable Josef Bacik
2017-12-18  9:11   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2017-12-19  6:29   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2017-12-20  2:14     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-12-20  7:13       ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2017-12-20 10:09         ` Daniel Borkmann
2017-12-20 17:22         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-12-20 11:00   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2017-12-20 17:33     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-12-15 19:12 ` [PATCH v10 2/5] btrfs: make open_ctree " Josef Bacik
2017-12-15 19:12 ` [PATCH v10 3/5] bpf: add a bpf_override_function helper Josef Bacik
2017-12-15 20:34   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-12-15 20:53     ` Daniel Borkmann
2017-12-18  9:51   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2017-12-18 15:09     ` Daniel Borkmann
2017-12-19  6:38       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2017-12-15 19:12 ` [PATCH v10 4/5] samples/bpf: add a test for bpf_override_return Josef Bacik
2017-12-15 19:12 ` [PATCH v10 5/5] btrfs: allow us to inject errors at io_ctl_init Josef Bacik

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