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From: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
To: Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>
Cc: Jakub Kicinski <kubakici@wp.pl>, David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net,
	xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com, mlxsw@mellanox.com, andrew@lunn.ch,
	vivien.didelot@savoirfairelinux.com, f.fainelli@gmail.com,
	michael.chan@broadcom.com, ganeshgr@chelsio.com,
	saeedm@mellanox.com, matanb@mellanox.com, leonro@mellanox.com,
	idosch@mellanox.com, simon.horman@netronome.com,
	pieter.jansenvanvuuren@netronome.com, john.hurley@netronome.com,
	alexander.h.duyck@intel.com, ogerlitz@mellanox.com,
	john.fastabend@gmail.com, daniel@iogearbox.net
Subject: Re: [patch net-next v4 00/10] net: sched: allow qdiscs to share filter block instances
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2018 15:02:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180104140206.GE2213@nanopsycho> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3d98834d-c02f-3209-a9d8-67603372cd60@mojatatu.com>

Thu, Jan 04, 2018 at 02:30:54PM CET, jhs@mojatatu.com wrote:
>On 18-01-04 08:00 AM, Jiri Pirko wrote:
>> Thu, Jan 04, 2018 at 01:41:54PM CET, jhs@mojatatu.com wrote:
>
>
>> > 
>> > And that a simple "tc qdisc add dev ens7 ingress" should
>> > either not be able to create a block (or we can say creates
>> > block id 0 - owned by the netdev - for consistency).
>> 
>> This allocates a new block - as it needs it internally anyway - and tc
>> core will assign unused block id. You can see this id in the list then.
>> Later you can use this block id for other created qdiscs.
>> 
>> Block ids are per-ns.
>> 
>
>Hrm. I was thinking more that there is a block that cannot be shared
>and is only owned by the netdev i.e current behavior. But what you
>describe should work
>(and let the user decide if they want to share).

Yeah. This is how it is implemented right now. Works fine. And provides
user possibility to set the share with other qdisc while the filters are
already there. It is actually quite nice.

>
>> > 
>> > Maybe what we need is another knob to control this new functionality?
>> > Either a kernel config option or an extra parameter when creating
>> > the qdisc or a system wide boolean per netdev (which of course
>> > contradicts the "less is more" principle). If this knob was set
>> > then you reject addition of filters via a port/qdisc which is sharing.
>> 
>> I don't like this knob idea. It just adds confusion for no good reason
>> what so ever.
>
>I dont like it either but i see it as a knob to choose between
>improved usability/manageability (which new interface provides)
>vs least suprise - which is to keep the old syntax around.
>If i was an admin and turned on this knob - I am prepared to deal
>with fallout of some user script which tries to add filters via
>the device instead of the block.

This smells awfully like "break_my_system" knob described by DaveM
during our route offloading discussions :)

I would just go without this knob for now in a way I suggested earlier
in my reply to DavidA. I would leave the functionality there as it is in
the current patchset, leaving all original interfaces to work and on top
of that, I will add "filter add block" and "filter list block" handles.
Sounds fine?


>
>cheers,
>jamal

  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-04 14:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-23 15:54 [patch net-next v4 00/10] net: sched: allow qdiscs to share filter block instances Jiri Pirko
2017-12-23 15:54 ` [patch net-next v4 01/10] net: sched: introduce support for multiple filter chain pointers registration Jiri Pirko
2017-12-23 15:54 ` [patch net-next v4 02/10] net: sched: avoid usage of tp->q in tcf_classify Jiri Pirko
2017-12-23 15:54 ` [patch net-next v4 03/10] net: sched: introduce block mechanism to handle netif_keep_dst calls Jiri Pirko
2017-12-23 15:54 ` [patch net-next v4 04/10] net: sched: remove classid and q fields from tcf_proto Jiri Pirko
2017-12-23 15:54 ` [patch net-next v4 05/10] net: sched: keep track of offloaded filters and check tc offload feature Jiri Pirko
2017-12-24  2:20   ` Jakub Kicinski
2017-12-24  7:52     ` Jiri Pirko
2017-12-23 15:54 ` [patch net-next v4 06/10] net: sched: allow ingress and clsact qdiscs to share filter blocks Jiri Pirko
2017-12-23 15:54 ` [patch net-next v4 07/10] mlxsw: spectrum_acl: Reshuffle code around mlxsw_sp_acl_ruleset_create/destroy Jiri Pirko
2017-12-23 15:54 ` [patch net-next v4 08/10] mlxsw: spectrum_acl: Don't store netdev and ingress for ruleset unbind Jiri Pirko
2017-12-23 15:54 ` [patch net-next v4 09/10] mlxsw: spectrum_acl: Implement TC block sharing Jiri Pirko
2017-12-23 15:54 ` [patch net-next v4 10/10] mlxsw: spectrum_acl: Pass mlxsw_sp_port down to ruleset bind/unbind ops Jiri Pirko
2017-12-23 16:06 ` [patch iproute2] tc: implement filter block sharing to ingress and clsact qdiscs Jiri Pirko
2017-12-24  1:54 ` [patch net-next v4 00/10] net: sched: allow qdiscs to share filter block instances David Ahern
2017-12-24  7:19   ` Jiri Pirko
2017-12-24 16:25     ` David Ahern
2017-12-25 10:23       ` Jiri Pirko
2018-01-02 19:49         ` Jiri Pirko
2018-01-03  2:07           ` David Ahern
2018-01-03  9:40             ` Jiri Pirko
2018-01-03 15:57               ` David Ahern
2018-01-03 17:22                 ` Jiri Pirko
2018-01-03 23:51                   ` Jakub Kicinski
2018-01-04  6:57                     ` Jiri Pirko
2018-01-04  7:06                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2018-01-04 10:12                         ` Jiri Pirko
2018-01-04 12:41                           ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2018-01-04 13:00                             ` Jiri Pirko
2018-01-04 13:30                               ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2018-01-04 14:02                                 ` Jiri Pirko [this message]
2018-01-04 15:45                             ` David Miller
2018-01-04 12:55                           ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2018-01-04 13:05                             ` Jiri Pirko
2018-01-04 13:43                               ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2018-01-04 14:06                                 ` Jiri Pirko
2018-01-04 15:42                                   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2018-01-04 15:33                           ` David Miller
2018-01-04 15:51                             ` Jiri Pirko
2018-01-05 10:38                               ` Jiri Pirko

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