From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: dvb usb issues since kernel 4.9
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 18:55:51 +0100
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Cc: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@s-opensource.com>,
        Josef Griebichler <griebichler.josef@gmx.at>,
        Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
        Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
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        Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
        LMML <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
        David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
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* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 11:54 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab
> <mchehab@s-opensource.com> wrote:
> >
> > Em Sat, 6 Jan 2018 16:04:16 +0100
> > "Josef Griebichler" <griebichler.josef@gmx.at> escreveu:
> >>
> >> the causing commit has been identified.
> >> After reverting commit https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=4cd13c21b207e80ddb1144c576500098f2d5f882
> >> its working again.
> >
> > Just replying to me won't magically fix this. The ones that were involved on
> > this patch should also be c/c, plus USB people. Just added them.
> 
> Actually, you seem to have added an odd subset of the people involved.
> 
> For example, Ingo - who actually committed that patch - wasn't on the cc.
> 
> I do think we need to simply revert that patch. It's very simple: it
> has been reported to lead to actual problems for people, and we don't
> fix one problem and then say "well, it fixed something else" when
> something breaks.
> 
> When something breaks, we either unbreak it, or we revert the change
> that caused the breakage.
> 
> It's really that simple. That's what "no regressions" means.  We don't
> accept changes that cause regressions. This one did.

Yeah, absolutely - for the revert:

   Acked-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>

as I doubt we have enough time to root-case this properly.

Thanks,

	Ingo