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From: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <jbrouer@redhat.com>
To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@s-opensource.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Josef Griebichler <griebichler.josef@gmx.at>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	USB list <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	LMML <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: dvb usb issues since kernel 4.9
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 22:26:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180109222604.64d4377c@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180109154235.2a42f0a0@vento.lan>


On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 15:42:35 -0200 Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@s-opensource.com> wrote:
> Em Mon, 8 Jan 2018 11:51:04 -0800 Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> escreveu:
> 
[...]
> Patch makes sense to me, although I was not able to test it myself.
 
The patch also make sense to me.  I've done some basic testing with it
on my high-end Broadwell system (that I use for 100Gbit/s testing). As
expected the network overload case still works, as NET_RX_SOFTIRQ is
not matched. 

> I set a RPi3 machine here with vanilla Kernel 4.14.11 running a
> standard raspbian distribution (with elevator=deadline).

I found a Raspberry Pi Model B+ (I think, BCM2835), that I loaded the
LibreELEC distro on.  One of the guys even created an image for me with
a specific kernel[1] (that I just upgraded the system with).

[1] https://forum.libreelec.tv/thread/4235-dvb-issue-since-le-switched-to-kernel-4-9-x/?postID=77031#post77031
 
> My plan is to do more tests along this week, and try to tweak a little
> bit both userspace and kernelspace, in order to see if I can get
> better results.
 
I've previously experienced that you can be affected by the scheduler
granularity, which is adjustable (with CONFIG_SCHED_DEBUG=y):

 $ grep -H . /proc/sys/kernel/sched_*_granularity_ns
 /proc/sys/kernel/sched_min_granularity_ns:2250000
 /proc/sys/kernel/sched_wakeup_granularity_ns:3000000

The above numbers were confirmed on the RPi2 (see[2]). With commit
4cd13c21b207 ("softirq: Let ksoftirqd do its job"), I expect/assume that
softirq processing latency is bounded by the sched_wakeup_granularity_ns,
which with 3 ms is not good enough for their use-case.

Thus, if you manage to reproduce the case, try to see if adjusting this
can mitigate the issue...


Their system have non-preempt kernel, should they use PREEMPT?

 LibreELEC:~ # uname -a
 Linux LibreELEC 4.14.10 #1 SMP Tue Jan 9 17:35:03 GMT 2018 armv7l GNU/Linux

[2] https://forum.libreelec.tv/thread/4235-dvb-issue-since-le-switched-to-kernel-4-9-x/?postID=76999#post76999
-- 
Best regards,
  Jesper Dangaard Brouer
  MSc.CS, Principal Kernel Engineer at Red Hat
  LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/brouer

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-01-09 21:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2018-01-06 19:54       ` dvb usb issues since kernel 4.9 Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-01-06 21:07         ` Aw: " Josef Griebichler
2018-01-06 21:44         ` Alan Stern
2018-01-07 11:03           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-01-07 15:41             ` Alan Stern
     [not found]               ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1801071010540.13425-100000-pYrvlCTfrz9XsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2018-01-07 17:01                 ` Aw: " Josef Griebichler
2018-01-08  9:43               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-01-08 16:10                 ` Alan Stern
2018-01-08 16:26                 ` Aw: " Josef Griebichler
2018-01-08 16:31                   ` Alan Stern
2018-01-08 17:15                     ` Aw: " Josef Griebichler
2018-01-08 17:35                       ` Alan Stern
2018-01-08 20:40                         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2018-01-08 21:31                   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2018-01-08 21:44                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-08 22:16                       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2018-01-09 16:51                         ` Aw: " Josef Griebichler
2018-01-09 17:27                           ` Eric Dumazet
2018-01-09 17:48                             ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-09 17:57                               ` Eric Dumazet
2018-01-09 18:58                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-09 21:48                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2018-01-10  9:45                                   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2018-01-12 21:13                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-01-12 21:48                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2018-01-13  9:09                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-01-13 10:46                                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-01-07 21:23         ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-08 10:02           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-01-08 11:59             ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2018-01-08 12:53               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-01-08 16:25                 ` Alan Stern
2018-01-08 17:55           ` Ingo Molnar
2018-01-08 18:32             ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-08 19:15               ` Alan Stern
2018-01-08 19:51                 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-09 17:42                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-01-09 17:55                     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-09 21:26                     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer [this message]
2018-01-10  3:02                       ` Mike Galbraith
2018-07-17 11:54                   ` Hanna Hawa
2018-07-17 17:09                     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-07-17 18:07                       ` Hanna Hawa
2018-07-17 22:21                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-01-26 14:17                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-01-26 19:37                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-01-29 13:51                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab

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