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From: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	phil@nwl.cc, laforge@gnumonks.org, fw@strlen.de,
	daniel@iogearbox.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/4] net: add bpfilter
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 13:01:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180221120123.7ze57exniznjjavs@salvia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180221015251.7ejj3br76rwumfyi@ast-mbp.dhcp.thefacebook.com>

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 05:52:54PM -0800, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 11:44:31AM +0100, Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote:
> > 
> >   Don't get me wrong, no software is safe from security issues, but if you
> >   don't abstract your resources in the right way, you have more chance to
> >   have experimence more problems.
> 
> interesting point.
> The key part of iptables and nft design is heavy use of indirect calls.
> The execution of single iptable rule is ~3 indirect calls.
> Quite a lot worse in nft where every expression is an indirect call.

That's right. Netfilter is probably too modular, probably we can
revisit this to find a better balance, actually Felix Fietkau was
recently rising concerns on this, specifically in environments with
limited space to store the kernel image. We'll have a look, thanks for
remind us about this.

[...]
> CPUs will eventually be fixed and IBRS_ALL will become reality.
> Until then the kernel has to deal with the performance issues.

Hopefully, so we can all skip these problems.

Thanks.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-21 12:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-16 13:40 [PATCH RFC 0/4] net: add bpfilter Daniel Borkmann
2018-02-16 13:40 ` [PATCH RFC 1/4] modules: allow insmod load regular elf binaries Daniel Borkmann
2018-02-16 13:40 ` [PATCH RFC 2/4] bpf: introduce bpfilter commands Daniel Borkmann
2018-02-16 13:40 ` [PATCH RFC 3/4] net: initial bpfilter skeleton Daniel Borkmann
2018-02-16 13:40 ` [PATCH RFC 4/4] bpf: rough bpfilter codegen example hack Daniel Borkmann
2018-02-16 14:57 ` [PATCH RFC 0/4] net: add bpfilter Florian Westphal
2018-02-16 16:14   ` Florian Westphal
2018-02-16 20:44     ` Daniel Borkmann
2018-02-17 12:33       ` Harald Welte
2018-02-17 19:18       ` Florian Westphal
2018-02-16 22:33     ` David Miller
2018-02-17 12:21       ` Harald Welte
2018-02-17 20:10       ` Florian Westphal
2018-02-17 22:38         ` Florian Westphal
2018-02-16 16:53   ` Daniel Borkmann
2018-02-16 22:32   ` David Miller
2018-02-17 12:11 ` Harald Welte
2018-02-18  0:35   ` Florian Westphal
2018-02-19 12:03   ` Daniel Borkmann
2018-02-19 12:52     ` Harald Welte
2018-02-19 14:44       ` David Miller
2018-02-19 14:53         ` Florian Westphal
2018-02-19 15:07           ` David Miller
2018-02-19 15:20             ` Florian Westphal
2018-02-19 15:28               ` David Miller
2018-02-19 15:23         ` Harald Welte
2018-02-19 15:32           ` David Miller
2018-02-19 15:37             ` Jan Engelhardt
2018-02-19 15:43               ` David Miller
2018-02-19 15:36           ` David Miller
2018-02-19 17:20             ` Harald Welte
2018-02-19 17:29               ` David Miller
2018-02-19 18:37                 ` Harald Welte
2018-02-19 18:47                   ` David Miller
2018-02-19 17:40             ` Arturo Borrero Gonzalez
2018-02-19 18:06             ` Arturo Borrero Gonzalez
2018-02-19 18:43               ` David Miller
2018-02-19 15:00     ` David Miller
2018-02-19 14:59       ` Florian Westphal
2018-02-19 15:13         ` David Miller
2018-02-19 15:15           ` Florian Westphal
2018-02-19 15:27             ` David Miller
2018-02-19 15:38               ` Harald Welte
2018-02-19 15:44                 ` David Miller
2018-02-19 17:14                   ` Phil Sutter
2018-02-19 17:22                     ` David Miller
2018-02-19 18:05                       ` Phil Sutter
2018-02-19 18:41                         ` David Miller
2018-02-19 20:41                           ` Phil Sutter
2018-02-19 21:13                       ` Florian Westphal
2018-02-20 10:44                       ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2018-02-20 14:07                         ` Daniel Borkmann
2018-02-20 14:55                         ` David Miller
2018-02-21  1:52                         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-02-21 12:01                           ` Pablo Neira Ayuso [this message]
2018-02-21 12:13                             ` Florian Westphal
2018-02-22  2:20                               ` nft/bpf interpreters and spectre2. Was: " Alexei Starovoitov
2018-02-22 11:39                                 ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2018-02-22 17:06                                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-02-22 18:47                                     ` Jann Horn
2018-02-19 17:41               ` Arturo Borrero Gonzalez
2018-02-19 21:30             ` Jozsef Kadlecsik
2018-02-19 15:27           ` Harald Welte
2018-02-19 15:31             ` David Miller
2018-02-19 17:09               ` Phil Sutter
2018-02-19 17:15                 ` David Miller
2018-02-20 13:05                   ` Phil Sutter
2018-02-20  9:35                 ` Michal Kubecek
2018-02-20 18:10                   ` Phil Sutter
2018-02-19 17:32               ` Harald Welte
2018-02-19 17:41               ` Arturo Borrero Gonzalez
2018-02-19 21:42   ` Willem de Bruijn
2018-02-18 23:35 ` Florian Westphal

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