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From: Michael Holzheu <holzheu@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: "Naveen N. Rao" <naveen.n.rao@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Sandipan Das <sandipan@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	ast@fb.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH bpf v2 1/2] bpf: allow 64-bit offsets for bpf function calls
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 13:06:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180222130640.0043c8d3@TP-holzheu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1518791626.5484j97if6.naveen@linux.ibm.com>

Am Fri, 16 Feb 2018 21:20:09 +0530
schrieb "Naveen N. Rao" <naveen.n.rao@linux.vnet.ibm.com>:

> Daniel Borkmann wrote:
> > On 02/15/2018 05:25 PM, Daniel Borkmann wrote:
> >> On 02/13/2018 05:05 AM, Sandipan Das wrote:
> >>> The imm field of a bpf_insn is a signed 32-bit integer. For
> >>> JIT-ed bpf-to-bpf function calls, it stores the offset from
> >>> __bpf_call_base to the start of the callee function.
> >>>
> >>> For some architectures, such as powerpc64, it was found that
> >>> this offset may be as large as 64 bits because of which this
> >>> cannot be accomodated in the imm field without truncation.
> >>>
> >>> To resolve this, we additionally make aux->func within each
> >>> bpf_prog associated with the functions to point to the list
> >>> of all function addresses determined by the verifier.
> >>>
> >>> We keep the value assigned to the off field of the bpf_insn
> >>> as a way to index into aux->func and also set aux->func_cnt
> >>> so that this can be used for performing basic upper bound
> >>> checks for the off field.
> >>>
> >>> Signed-off-by: Sandipan Das <sandipan@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
> >>> ---
> >>> v2: Make aux->func point to the list of functions determined
> >>>     by the verifier rather than allocating a separate callee
> >>>     list for each function.
> >> 
> >> Approach looks good to me; do you know whether s390x JIT would
> >> have similar requirement? I think one limitation that would still
> >> need to be addressed later with such approach would be regarding the
> >> xlated prog dump in bpftool, see 'BPF calls via JIT' in 7105e828c087
> >> ("bpf: allow for correlation of maps and helpers in dump"). Any
> >> ideas for this (potentially if we could use off + imm for calls,
> >> we'd get to 48 bits, but that seems still not be enough as you say)?
> 
> All good points. I'm not really sure how s390x works, so I can't comment 
> on that, but I'm copying Michael Holzheu for his consideration.
> 
> With the existing scheme, 48 bits won't be enough, so we rejected that 
> approach. I can also see how this will be a problem with bpftool, but I 
> haven't looked into it in detail. I wonder if we can annotate the output 
> to indicate the function being referred to?
> 
> > 
> > One other random thought, although I'm not sure how feasible this
> > is for ppc64 JIT to realize ... but idea would be to have something
> > like the below:
> > 
> > diff --git a/kernel/bpf/core.c b/kernel/bpf/core.c
> > index 29ca920..daa7258 100644
> > --- a/kernel/bpf/core.c
> > +++ b/kernel/bpf/core.c
> > @@ -512,6 +512,11 @@ int bpf_get_kallsym(unsigned int symnum, unsigned long *value, char *type,
> >  	return ret;
> >  }
> > 
> > +void * __weak bpf_jit_image_alloc(unsigned long size)
> > +{
> > +	return module_alloc(size);
> > +}
> > +
> >  struct bpf_binary_header *
> >  bpf_jit_binary_alloc(unsigned int proglen, u8 **image_ptr,
> >  		     unsigned int alignment,
> > @@ -525,7 +530,7 @@ bpf_jit_binary_alloc(unsigned int proglen, u8 **image_ptr,
> >  	 * random section of illegal instructions.
> >  	 */
> >  	size = round_up(proglen + sizeof(*hdr) + 128, PAGE_SIZE);
> > -	hdr = module_alloc(size);
> > +	hdr = bpf_jit_image_alloc(size);
> >  	if (hdr == NULL)
> >  		return NULL;
> > 
> > And ppc64 JIT could override bpf_jit_image_alloc() in a similar way
> > like some archs would override the module_alloc() helper through a
> > custom implementation, usually via __vmalloc_node_range(), so we
> > could perhaps fit the range for BPF JITed images in a way that they
> > could use the 32bit imm in the end? There are not that many progs
> > loaded typically, so the range could be a bit narrower in such case
> > anyway. (Not sure if this would work out though, but I thought to
> > bring it up.)
> 
> That'd be a good option to consider. I don't think we want to allocate 
> anything from the linear memory range since users could load 
> unprivileged BPF programs and consume a lot of memory that way. I doubt 
> if we can map vmalloc'ed memory into the 0xc0 address range, but I'm not 
> entirely sure.
> 
> Michael,
> Is the above possible? The question is if we can have BPF programs be 
> allocated within 4GB of __bpf_call_base (which is a kernel symbol), so 
> that calls to those programs can be encoded in a 32-bit immediate field 
> in a BPF instruction. As an extension, we may be able to extend it to 
> 48-bits by combining with another BPF instruction field (offset). In 
> either case, the vmalloc'ed address range won't work.
> 
> The alternative is to pass the full 64-bit address of the BPF program in 
> an auxiliary field (as proposed in this patch set) but we need to fix it 
> up for 'bpftool' as well.

Hi Naveen,

Our s390 kernel maintainer Martin Schwidefsky took over
eBPF responsibility for s390 from me.

@Martin: Can you answer Navee's question?

Michael

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-02-22 12:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-13  4:05 [RFC][PATCH bpf v2 1/2] bpf: allow 64-bit offsets for bpf function calls Sandipan Das
2018-02-13  4:06 ` [RFC][PATCH bpf v2 2/2] bpf: powerpc64: add JIT support for multi-function programs Sandipan Das
2018-02-15 16:25 ` [RFC][PATCH bpf v2 1/2] bpf: allow 64-bit offsets for bpf function calls Daniel Borkmann
2018-02-15 20:18   ` Daniel Borkmann
2018-02-16 15:50     ` Naveen N. Rao
2018-02-20  9:29       ` Michael Ellerman
2018-02-20 19:22         ` Naveen N. Rao
2018-02-27 12:13           ` [RFC][PATCH bpf] tools: bpftool: Fix tags for bpf-to-bpf calls Sandipan Das
2018-02-27 14:44             ` Daniel Borkmann
2018-03-01  8:51               ` Naveen N. Rao
2018-03-05 17:02                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
     [not found]                 ` <415b415e-f47f-082c-1bc9-87d3e9d3aed1__9575.16645216874$1520270545$gmane$org@fb.com>
     [not found]                   ` <415b415e-f47f-082c-1bc9-87d3e9d3aed1__9575.16645216874$1520270545$gmane$org@ fb.com>
2018-05-03 15:20                     ` Naveen N. Rao
2018-02-22 12:06       ` Michael Holzheu [this message]
2018-02-22 12:10         ` [RFC][PATCH bpf v2 1/2] bpf: allow 64-bit offsets for bpf function calls Michael Holzheu

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