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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: "Björn Töpel" <bjorn.topel@gmail.com>
Cc: magnus.karlsson@intel.com, alexander.h.duyck@intel.com,
	alexander.duyck@gmail.com, john.fastabend@gmail.com, ast@fb.com,
	brouer@redhat.com, willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com,
	daniel@iogearbox.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	michael.lundkvist@ericsson.com, jesse.brandeburg@intel.com,
	anjali.singhai@intel.com, qi.z.zhang@intel.com,
	ravineet.singh@ericsson.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 03/14] xsk: add umem fill queue support and mmap
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 05:15:42 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180412050542-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180327165919.17933-4-bjorn.topel@gmail.com>

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 06:59:08PM +0200, Björn Töpel wrote:
> @@ -30,4 +31,18 @@ struct xdp_umem_reg {
>  	__u32 frame_headroom; /* Frame head room */
>  };
>  
> +/* Pgoff for mmaping the rings */
> +#define XDP_UMEM_PGOFF_FILL_QUEUE	0x100000000
> +
> +struct xdp_queue {
> +	__u32 head_idx __attribute__((aligned(64)));
> +	__u32 tail_idx __attribute__((aligned(64)));
> +};
> +
> +/* Used for the fill and completion queues for buffers */
> +struct xdp_umem_queue {
> +	struct xdp_queue ptrs;
> +	__u32 desc[0] __attribute__((aligned(64)));
> +};
> +
>  #endif /* _LINUX_IF_XDP_H */

So IIUC it's a head/tail ring of 32 bit descriptors.

In my experience (from implementing ptr_ring) this
implies that head/tail cache lines bounce a lot between
CPUs. Caching will help some. You are also forced to
use barriers to check validity which is slow on
some architectures.

If instead you can use a special descriptor value (e.g. 0) as
a valid signal, things work much better:

- you read descriptor atomically, if it's not 0 it's fine
- same with write - write 0 to pass it to the other side
- there is a data dependency so no need for barriers (except on dec alpha)
- no need for power of 2 limitations, you can make it any size you like
- easy to resize too

architecture (if not implementation) would be shared with ptr_ring
so some of the optimization ideas like batched updates could
be lifted from there.

When I was building ptr_ring, any head/tail design underperformed
storing valid flag with data itself. YMMV.

-- 
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-12  2:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-27 16:59 [RFC PATCH v2 00/14] Introducing AF_XDP support Björn Töpel
2018-03-27 16:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/14] net: initial AF_XDP skeleton Björn Töpel
2018-03-27 16:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/14] xsk: add user memory registration support sockopt Björn Töpel
2018-03-27 16:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/14] xsk: add umem fill queue support and mmap Björn Töpel
2018-04-12  2:15   ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2018-04-12  7:38     ` Karlsson, Magnus
2018-04-12  8:54       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2018-04-12 14:04       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-04-12 15:19         ` Karlsson, Magnus
2018-04-23 10:26           ` Karlsson, Magnus
2018-03-27 16:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/14] xsk: add Rx queue setup and mmap support Björn Töpel
2018-03-27 16:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/14] xsk: add support for bind for Rx Björn Töpel
2018-03-27 16:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/14] xsk: add Rx receive functions and poll support Björn Töpel
2018-03-27 16:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/14] bpf: introduce new bpf AF_XDP map type BPF_MAP_TYPE_XSKMAP Björn Töpel
2018-03-27 16:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/14] xsk: wire up XDP_DRV side of AF_XDP Björn Töpel
2018-03-27 16:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/14] xsk: wire up XDP_SKB " Björn Töpel
2018-03-27 16:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/14] xsk: add umem completion queue support and mmap Björn Töpel
2018-03-27 16:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/14] xsk: add Tx queue setup and mmap support Björn Töpel
2018-03-27 16:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/14] xsk: support for Tx Björn Töpel
2018-03-27 16:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/14] xsk: statistics support Björn Töpel
2018-03-27 16:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 14/14] samples/bpf: sample application for AF_XDP sockets Björn Töpel
2018-04-12 11:05   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2018-04-12 11:08     ` Karlsson, Magnus
2018-03-28 21:18 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/14] Introducing AF_XDP support Eric Leblond
2018-03-29  6:16   ` Björn Töpel
2018-03-29 15:36     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2018-04-09 21:51 ` William Tu
2018-04-10  6:47   ` Björn Töpel
2018-04-10 14:14     ` William Tu
2018-04-11 12:17       ` Björn Töpel
2018-04-11 18:43         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-04-12 14:14           ` Björn Töpel

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