From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
Cc: "Samudrala, Sridhar" <sridhar.samudrala@intel.com>,
stephen@networkplumber.org, davem@davemloft.net,
netdev@vger.kernel.org,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, jesse.brandeburg@intel.com,
alexander.h.duyck@intel.com, kubakici@wp.pl, jasowang@redhat.com,
loseweigh@gmail.com, aaron.f.brown@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v9 3/4] virtio_net: Extend virtio to use VF datapath when available
Date: Wed, 2 May 2018 18:47:27 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180502184326-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180502075021.GC19250@nanopsycho>
On Wed, May 02, 2018 at 09:50:21AM +0200, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> Wed, May 02, 2018 at 02:20:26AM CEST, sridhar.samudrala@intel.com wrote:
> >On 4/30/2018 12:20 AM, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> >>
> >> > > Now I try to change mac of the failover master:
> >> > > [root@test1 ~]# ip link set ens3 addr 52:54:00:b2:a7:f3
> >> > > RTNETLINK answers: Operation not supported
> >> > >
> >> > > That I did expect to work. I would expect this would change the mac of
> >> > > the master and both standby and primary slaves.
> >> > If a VF is untrusted, a VM will not able to change its MAC and moreover
> >> Note that at this point, I have no VF. So I'm not sure why you mention
> >> that.
> >>
> >>
> >> > in this mode we are assuming that the hypervisor has assigned the MAC and
> >> > guest is not expected to change the MAC.
> >> Wait, for ordinary old-fashioned virtio_net, as a VM user, I can change
> >> mac and all works fine. How is this different? Change mac on "failover
> >> instance" should work and should propagate the mac down to its slaves.
> >>
> >>
> >> > For the initial implementation, i would propose not allowing the guest to
> >> > change the MAC of failover or standby dev.
> >> I see no reason for such restriction.
> >>
> >
> >It is true that a VM user can change mac address of a normal virtio-net interface,
> >however when it is in STANDBY mode i think we should not allow this change specifically
> >because we are creating a failover instance based on a MAC that is assigned by the
> >hypervisor.
> >
> >Moreover, in a cloud environment i would think that PF/hypervisor assigns a MAC to
> >the VF and it cannot be changed by the guest.
>
> So that is easy. You allow the change of the mac and in the "failover"
> mac change implementation you propagate the change down to slaves. If
> one slave does not support the change, you bail out. And since VF does
I wish people would say primary/standby and not "VF" :)
> not allow it as you say, once it will be enslaved, the mac change could
> not be done. Seems like a correct behavior to me
what if primary does not allow mac changes and is attached after
mac is changed on standy?
> and is in-sync with how
> bond/team behaves.
I think in the end virtio can just block MAC changes for simplicity.
I personally don't see softmac as a must have feature in v1,
we can add it later.
What's the situation with init scripts and whether it's
possible to make them work well would be a better question.
>
> >
> >So for the initial implementation, do you see any issues with having this restriction
> >in STANDBY mode.
> >
> >
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-05-02 15:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-04-27 17:06 [PATCH net-next v9 0/4] Enable virtio_net to act as a standby for a passthru device Sridhar Samudrala
2018-04-27 17:06 ` [PATCH net-next v9 1/4] virtio_net: Introduce VIRTIO_NET_F_STANDBY feature bit Sridhar Samudrala
2018-04-28 7:50 ` Jiri Pirko
2018-04-30 2:47 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-04-30 7:03 ` Jiri Pirko
2018-04-30 19:14 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-04-27 17:06 ` [PATCH net-next v9 2/4] net: Introduce generic failover module Sridhar Samudrala
2018-04-27 17:53 ` Jiri Pirko
2018-04-28 8:15 ` Jiri Pirko
2018-04-30 2:47 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-04-28 9:06 ` Jiri Pirko
2018-04-30 3:03 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-05-02 16:15 ` Jiri Pirko
2018-05-02 17:51 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-05-02 20:30 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-02 21:36 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-05-02 21:39 ` Jiri Pirko
2018-05-02 21:39 ` Jiri Pirko
2018-04-27 17:06 ` [PATCH net-next v9 3/4] virtio_net: Extend virtio to use VF datapath when available Sridhar Samudrala
2018-04-28 8:24 ` Jiri Pirko
2018-04-30 3:00 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-04-30 7:12 ` Jiri Pirko
2018-04-30 19:26 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-05-01 7:33 ` Jiri Pirko
2018-04-28 9:42 ` Jiri Pirko
2018-04-29 8:56 ` Siwei Liu
2018-04-29 13:45 ` Jiri Pirko
2018-04-30 4:16 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-04-30 7:20 ` Jiri Pirko
2018-05-02 0:20 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-05-02 7:50 ` Jiri Pirko
2018-05-02 15:34 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-05-02 16:05 ` Jiri Pirko
2018-05-02 15:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2018-05-02 16:04 ` Jiri Pirko
2018-04-27 17:07 ` [PATCH net-next v9 4/4] netvsc: refactor notifier/event handling code to use the failover framework Sridhar Samudrala
2018-04-27 17:45 ` [PATCH net-next v9 0/4] Enable virtio_net to act as a standby for a passthru device Jiri Pirko
2018-04-27 17:53 ` Samudrala, Sridhar
2018-04-27 19:38 ` Jiri Pirko
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